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February 20, 2012 at 12:00 am #66030tnelsonflaMember
I believe most people are looking to join a group off grid or start as a community because of the initial cost. Also depending on the building it goes alot easier and or quicker with several working on the same task.February 21, 2012 at 12:00 am #66031
I buy that part. What i dont understand is the priority. If you are helping me get my stuff done who helps you and when is there time. The days go very fast off grid lots to do and very little help. Sure id love some help but when would i have time to return it. Thats why i see problems in the planning of a group. If living structures are already in place then you have a starting point or if you have living quarters such as rv ect. Then it becomes give and take with no hurt feelings. Im pretty sure bad feelings can ruin a group faster than anything else. So ill finish mine and then start on someone elses. And i would expect the same from them. I dont have a problem with groups or communes or what you choose to call them i just see lotsa potential for misunderstandings that could ruin the whole group. Giving you land in exchange for letting you build on it doesnt help you if you dont know how to build it. So build it and then they have something to live in an time to help.February 23, 2012 at 12:00 am #66044knomadiqParticipant
i just got my first thing a hand powered generator, next im getting a solar powered one. what do you all think about living on a boat. im trying to get some people together so that i can be apart of a comunity when it hits. i dont want to just survive by myself. im going to be stocking up on rice. and seads. i need help! first of all comunity, who and where to start at?February 23, 2012 at 12:00 am #66045Alrod53Participant
Desert Deb, You have hit the nail right on the head. If you have something already built people will come. But if someone has to build their own structure to live in forget it, Thats too much work. But they wannabe off grid though. I think off grid is becoming the new buzz word. HaFebruary 24, 2012 at 12:00 am #66049
Maybe so alrod. But i doubt that those are the people that stay off grid. I dont think you cant underestimate the amount of work it really takes for this type of living. ok knomadiq what is a hand powered generator.February 24, 2012 at 12:00 am #66050EnoughIsEnoughParticipant
Re your post “We’re off grid. The good news is, we got everything paid off. The bad news is, now we’re both handicapped. Barely able to maintain our critters and the 20 acre farm. We have the knowledge, materials, and the tools, just lacking in ability to do much.
Looking for help in return for help.”
Trying to reach you to find out more about your needs. This is the area we’re planning to move to. Can’t find contact info anywhere.February 25, 2012 at 12:00 am #66053
Enouisenough, there is an email listed on psimation post have you tried that. Its also a blog site, should be able to find on net.February 25, 2012 at 12:00 am #66057knomadiqParticipant
K-TOR Pocket Socket Hand Crank Generator Portable Power Supply 10 Watts 120 Volts Made in the USA. i got it to keep my cell and my ipod charged. im running into the problem of comunity. i dont want to go off grid and be a hermit i would like to join others who are doing this.February 25, 2012 at 12:00 am #66058EnoughIsEnoughParticipant
I cannot find an actual email. Went over the blog site, and some others on net, but the only thing I can find is a Google Talk ID, which appears to be invalid…
I can be reached at email@example.com should anyone know how to get in touch with psimation. Thanks!February 26, 2012 at 12:00 am #66065a75butterflyParticipant
We just bought 35 acres in Northwest Wisconsin and are trying to figure out how to become off grid. We bought a sawmill and tractor from one guy and he threw in some generators and blades for windmills and some
literature on the subject. We just moved up here from the Chicago area near Schaumburg and spent 2 and a half years saving up to purchase this former farm to make back into a farm. The barn fell over a long time ago and has no salvageable wood but does have foundations that can be built on once we clean it up. We have a huge house and a huge electric bill this winter. We would like to get the alternative energy going sooner than later but we have spent our savings on things we needed i.e sawmill and tractor.
He is working almost full time,graveyard shift and I am taking care of our 4 year old daughter and getting ready for school to be employable and be the one who works so he can be home to rebuild the barn and plant the gardens. While I take care of the house and daughter and work. I am so looking forward to getting back into the workplace since I have been stay at home parent off and on for 19 years of my life. I usually only worked part time to be there for the kids. Now I want to give him a break. Well he will still be working but doing what he really wants to be doing instead of padding someone elses pockets. We have been inviting friends to come up and get away from the cities and help with tree cutting and barn removal(recycling what we can). Most are very helpful boy do we appreciate it. It turns our house into a B&B for the weekend but I don’t mind especially when I go outside and see the progress, and the praise my cooking gets. We have done so much to build a better life for our kids but have such a long way to go still. Just starting out makes it seem so hard and the result so far away but I don’t mean to sound like a whiner because I am very happy to be owning and not renting. I just can’t wait to have our gardens full and a barn and animals to provide what we need. We are starting out with chickens and rabbits and moving on to maybe goats and sheep. Eventually I want some cows both for meat and milk. We will see how it goes. Bless
YvetteFebruary 26, 2012 at 12:00 am #66067
A75butterfly. Fantastic for both of you. inviting friends is an exellent way to get help. Also you might consider renting a bedroom in exchange for help. you are in a beautiful area. I have toured that and vacationed there. Beautiful lakes and lotsa wood. I might suggest start small. Chickens dont need a barn, just a small insulated coop. easier to setup to start, same with rabbits. The big barn is a wonderful idea but can come later. small lean-to can be closed in for cow. let your husband souce out the sawmill in exchange for building help. We have friends that would mill our downed tree in exchange for part of the milled wood. Good way to acquire lumber for the barn. Or run an ad. Also you might run classified for off gridders wanting to learn building technology before starting their own place. i think the choice of you going to work is a great idea, friends here did that an it allowed husband more time to put buildings and misc. In place for the home. As far as electric bills start small there too. Buy a panel get a battery. Before you realize it you have acquired enough supply to run most of what you need. If heating is a problem because of cost id suggest a large outside wood stove piped into furnace ducts, we did that on a large farm house we had it worked fantastic. We would load it up at night and again in am, if we got chilly we would throw in some more. If you adapt a system that blows through ducts them you still have furnace use if you need it, in our case we didnt need and disconnected the furnace, that was a good day. Good luck, dont hesitate to ask your neighbors for help, its wonderful when you can give back to them.February 27, 2012 at 12:00 am #66070elnavMember
My wife was born and grew up on a saw mill. 100 years ago it was steam powered. The property is still off grid.
Sounds like a wonderful oppertunity.
Go look at lowtechmagazine.com for many ideas of non electrical machinery.
If the barn collapsed you may need the use of a kingpost to safely clear the wreckage.February 27, 2012 at 12:00 am #66071CabinmanParticipant
Just make it happen. That’s my attitude. I will admit that I looked for land for a long time before I found something we could afford. That was 1995 when we finally bought our property. Found a logger who was tired of paying the taxes and sold us some acreage. He held a 15 year land contract with a small down payment. We spent weekends and every free moment we could steal working on the place. We went without and scratched and saved and paid off the land contract in seven years.
Since we started the project I got lucky and fell into a gig caretaking a property part of the year in Florida. The rest of the year we live off the grid. I will continue to make improvements and prepare. Adding a root cellar this year and maybe an addition to the cabin. Depends how ambitious I feel.
If nothing else we have a peaceful off grid life half the year. We also have the peace of mind that if things get bad for any reason we have a place to go where can live a self sufficient life. We only have six acres but it might as well be 200. We have mature forest all around us. Most of it is land locked and far enough out in the sticks that I doubt it will be developed in my lifetime. Fertile soil and plenty of clean water.
Where there is a will there is a way. As far as a group or community. Not for us. My wife and the occaisional visit from my son and grand daughter is all I need. Oh I find the off grid community concept interesting, but I’d rather not deal with the whole social dynamics of it. I’m the King. I do what I want, when I want. Not saying I don’t have friends or that I’m anti social. When I need help the promise a some cold beer and a camp fire will almost always generate whatever help I need.February 28, 2012 at 12:00 am #66074
Enoighisenough check landbuddy psimation has a post there might be able to reach them.February 28, 2012 at 12:00 am #66075Alrod53Participant
Yes Deb, We know the amount of work involved in living off grid, we have been so for almost a year now. We collect and sterlize rain water for drinking, we heat with wood make our own power via solar and wind generators,and Sun Mar composting crapper. We garden and root celler,can,hunt,bucher and smoke meats make cheeses. We also have a green house for fresh veggies in winter and soon we will be setting up a large greenhouse for aquaculture, growing rainbow trout and fresh water prawns. Living off grid is a full time job in itself.
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