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Yes that is pretty much what I vision, The biggest factor that I have found is where you decide to go offgrid, with acts, statutes, and by laws it can make it very difficult to complete your vision. If you can not do everything you plan on in the area your looking at dont bother, you will be setting yourself up for a major headache.

I must suggest strongly not to go and squat on crown land, in CANADA you can not squat on land to gain ownership any more. also from my understanding, allodial title is also abolished in this NEW system. It may be different there but here if you get caught in crown land longer than 14 days they can seize everything!! I want to stress this point of fact!!!

As far as people go, this has been a huge challenge, for the most part everyone has the best intentions, if you can do it alone i say that s your avenue of less resistance you can say.

i have been trying to succeed at this for many years now while trying to work with others.

the biggest problem i see with other is different priorities and schedules, this is the real challenging part, because some are in a position they have to do know, others can do it at there leisure, when you have a number of people that are on different schedules it becomes nearly impossible to work in a co-op type community. due to the ones that have to do it know, do majority of the work and that becomes a problem. so you can see that just this by itself would be hard to accomplish without headache and drama a few months into it.

the next problem i have run into are people that will not take full responsibility for themselves in the form of they always need someone to help them, otherwise tasks dont get done, and someone else has to pick up there slack. this seems to be the biggest problem with people that have nothing to contribute.

I am not saying a true co-op would not work, I believe that a true co-op would be hard to start, but if started correctly would have a strong chance of thriving all on its own.

imo to correct the society misguided and dumb down people in it, education is needed, for me being offgrid is to take care of yourself, help other as much as you can and live easy.

I would change a few things until education and a coming together you can say of minds and souls for a true co-op to function properly.

the first is, 1 family or individual must take charge and start buy property and work getting yourself out.

every new person will have to build for themselves care for themselves in every way, once the individual has settled and is ready for a co-op then you can start the co-op, this does not mean , you cant share garden space, pasture area etc, help each other. need a layer of protection for you and everyone on the land, weather in a co-op or not, top priority is in your lively hood succeeding with out and problems or resets.

everyone that decides to join you, can, at first it is not a true co-op since everyone schedule etc is different. this will give everyone the time and space needed for them to do it how they need to in there time frame, without bringing problems to anyone else, since from what i have experienced in life is people dont try to screw ya, there life problems even after making an agreement will change if the new problem is more important to them than your agreement , then your left holding the bag. been there done that too many times..

so far this is a little of what i ran into, and what i have found to be the cause of the failure.

any ideas etc on ways to make it easier for people to work together in this messed up society? :)