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tradewinds63
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I’ve looked across the United States and within other 3rd world countries (when I considered an expat status). There are pros and cons with everything and outside the United States (assuming you were raised in the U.S.) can lead to culture shock. Most areas in the continental U.S. are not conducive to complete off grid/self sufficient living or tend to be dangerous (storms) and or uncomfortable (Temps) during given times of the year. Though one could do a substantial amount for themselves with regard to obtaining energy and food/etc, the mainland U.S. has substantial limitations (this includes growing seasons) when attempting to be 99%+ self sufficient.

After spending nearly 25 years living outside the United States and throughout given regions of the nation, I’ve come to the conclusion that the Big Island of Hawaii has the best “bang for the buck”, so to speak. Living off-grid and attempting to become self sufficient requires a great deal of support by Mother Nature and unless you thrive on simply surviving within Alaska or something to that effect, Hawaii offers the best support Mother Nature can provide.

There is a great deal of inexpensive land available in the south western and far eastern tip of the Big Island (Hawaii itself). Of the two regions the Puna District (far eastern region below Hilo) has the most to offer, inclusive of evading the VOG (volcanic smog) by virtue of the predominate offshore winds. If you’re a wind turbine person, the south west side of the Island will provide you with ample wind and low cost land. Other areas of the Island such as those about Wiamea will offer wind also, with the additional high prices the land will cost you.

Anywhere about the island is pretty much a shoe in for PV and S. Passive and if you’ve deep pockets you can even try your hand at Geo Thermal Energy. The advantages to such a region regarding this sort of living are too vast to cover in this post. Land can be found for very cheap, given areas have many non-permitted structures (permits are required but often ignored). The property taxes for those who live within a permitted structure are very low ($350k home may perhaps be $200 a year in property tax after exemption).

The rainfall is substantial and most houses use rain catchment. PV are used widely. The growing season is all year around. Hawaii is the only U.S. State/ large Island (except a couple very small Florida key islands) completely within the tropic belt (between tropic of Cancer and Capricorn). The temperatures are very stable and fluctuate very little as the island is surrounded by the warm waters of the Pacific at this latitude and at near sea level they hover around 80deg all year round and may dip only down to 60 on an extremely chilley evening or perhaps slightly above 90 on a very hot day in midst of “summer”. There are little to no uncomfortable days or evenings on these islands and neither heat or air conditioning is neccesary. 80 with the tradewinds is perrrrrrfection/paradise.

The active volcano keeps away big industry and most sheople as they fear death by incineration or the token tsunamis ;). We here fear neither but keep a close eye out on both as each are avoidable with regard to harm. No-one has died by the Volcano unless they were acting in the capacity of being stupid or tossed in by virtue of ancient sacrifice. Only a handfull have died by tsunami by virtue of not knowing what an unexpected super low tide meant and the fact that the warning stations that dot the island had not yet been installed.

Typically I as others on the Island would not breathe a word of these secrets about this paradise, but for fellow off-grid folks and those with the hardy pioneering spirit; the welcome mat is always out (we don’t want city slickers or whiners over here). For the city slickers, please continue to believe that Hawaii is very expensive and filled with storms and deadly volcanoes. Hawaii is home to the oldest cattle ranch in the U.S. and one of the largest, it’s also the home to the original Coyboys that were eventually hired and went to the mainland U.S. to introduce cattle ranching there. Very few people know that fact.

Here’s a link to the best and newest land on planet Earth. https://hawaiiinformation.com

Search by map, set to vacant land and drag over the Big Island and zoom in on the east tip of the Island. I happen to be down there in the jungle of Waa Waa, but you can certainly find stuff real cheap like $5k or less if you look a bit closer to the volcano. For the majority of newbies, you’ll really like Leilani estates and the 1 acre parcels, that will get you primed and you can negotiate those prices down to around $15k or 25k per acre without a view of the pacific. 10 years ago some places were still $500 an acre, so get it while you can before it’s all gone. Some stuff still $5k and acre on the south west side of island but all is now in the VOG most the time the past year.

Aloha,

Tradewinds63