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I paid $1.o9 down here in central Ontario this morning. It’s $1.20 for high octane, so I think your prices may go up even more before the nights over!
But thats where I’m confused, with your original post up top. Doesn’t the phrase, terminalogy -“Off-Grid”- pertain to everyone who chooses to be their own power & utilities companies?
By moving onto my acreage & conecting my panels to my batteries or wind turbine & then retreiving my water by the pail full from the nearest source, I have become “Off-GriD”. I no longer use the services provided by “The Power Authority” is what I beleive they call themselves down here now & I no longer use the water which is chemically treated for my benifit, so I am now, my own utility company. And CEO at that!
Or do you mean that, by everyone else he has join him in his endevour, all joining into a single array of panels & batt-bank & then live in shacks somewhat close together & perhaps joined by a few trails, in fact make them “Grid TieD”?
Yes. Thats L. John Fry. I already have his text & some lose drawings which I’ve gleened off of other free info sites, but not had time to read them. I avoid the heavier reading for the lighter stuff first. A curse of the procrastinator. But I’ve every intention on playing catch-up this winter.
I just “crave” the information which will have anything to do with my being successful at this. Bio-gas is a favorite for me!December 7, 2010 at 12:00 am in reply to: #64894
Theres an off-grid recording studio in Scotland which runs all of their equipment direct DC without any problems & I have hooked up my Zoom 707II guitar pedal, at 9v, directly to my batt-bank through an DC to DC reducer before & it still works just fine. Maybe making yourself up a secondary set of power cables for this stuff, just for low-voltage use would be benificial
Well! ILMAO! It felt like I was freekin speed reading that original post. And the whole time, thinkin to myself, “is this guy typing that fast too?”
I hope you decide to nix a few of the power hungry appliances you have using up all that much electricity. Thats a lot! My rental home in town with electric heat doesn’t even match that & our tenants have a big screen plasma TV on every time I go there.
But I used to dream about selling off exztra electricity too. I think a lot of us, used that line as an “defence phrase” every time somebody else who knew even less than ourselves, would question our judgement about going off-grid!
I was always under the impression that each color of LED, uses a seperate, different voltage. That it was the voltage that creates the varying color changes. Or is that with liquid crystal displays?
So then, this guy will “have to” use the power controller designated to whichever set of lights it came with? He won’t be able to run all 3 strips off of one controller “and” get the 3 seperate colors effect he’s after?
I beleive most of us would be capable of addapting to living without electricity should/if/when the time comes that electricity isn’t available for whatever reason. I know that I myself would be fine. However I don’t think that I would voluntarally do so.
I enjoy having & using it for all kinds of reasons, whether at my home in town or at my acreage in the wilds. While in the wilds though, I know it would have been far more complicated to achieve my “off-grid status” without electricity. It was used to create my solar panels, my batteries, my generator, etc… Without these items, a “lot” of people wouldn’t have elected to be “off-grid” to begin with! It is “only because of these items”, many of these messages are sent &/or received.
Electricity has made it possible for me to become as efficient as I have. Basically all of the knowledge I’ve gained to date, to maintain my lifestyle now, I owe to the internet & sites like this one. Not 100% of it all, but damn near!
It wouldn’t hurt my feelings none-at-all though, if the “Grid” system did collapse & our next generation “had to” learn how to survive without the “easy-come-easy-go” attitude most of my generation has come to know & worship!
Exactly! Practice healthy living routines with all aspects, including common sence & safety, and “learn” all that you can about how to deal with most minor medical emergencies.
Going “Off-Grid” doesn’t have anything to do with going without healthcare &/or medicines. “Off-Grid”, I.M.O., is providing the basic power requirements for myself, using alternative production methods, other than those we’ve been fooled into beleiving are the “best available” methods today which are commonly known as “the grid”.
“Everybody” throughout most of recorded history, has seen more qualified practitioners for the more serious medical problems though. In our society today, we visit hospitals & doctors. 200 years ago it would have been an Shaman or an Alchemist, in your home or theirs. Thank goodness we’ve progressed somewhat!
But not everyone “needs” healthcare. A lot of societies today do not even have healthcare. Here, we’re fortunate again to have access to it but, it’s another controvertible topic if we will for much longer.
My father was Mcmac Indian & Scottish from Canadas east coast, while my mother’s side was from the Apalachan’s in the USA. Both grew up without the “benifits” of the grid & during a time when power lines were still being installed to those “less fortunate” areas.
Together, my folks raised 11 kids on an orchard property in Caledonia, Ontario, Canada, where I was born in 1960, and none of us grew up knowing a life ‘without’ electricity. But we were in a different era then, which seen us “outside” for almost all of our activities & rarely would any of us be in the home watching TV or the like. If we kids were inside, for whatever reasons, boardgames, books & one another were our only alternative options of entertainment. It wasn’t until we kids aged & became educated, that our addictions to this drug called “the grid” became an concern.
Speaking for a lot of “my generation” here, we were “schooled” (fooled) to beleive in conformation & acceptance towards these addictions. That they were “the norm” & to do without them would deny us our very basic neccesities, as well as cause us to be “lesser than” those with them.
I grew up seeing this with my own eyes, in a public school system which promoted segragation & predudice towards the native children in it, through it’s teaching all of us to beleive this way of life wasn’t “good” or “acceptable” in this day & age.
Several of my native friends back then not only lived without electricity & indoor plumbing, but were quite content & happy “not knowing” about it’s benifits! I remember my thinking from back then, that they were the “poorer people” of my time, which I heard so much about in school. How wrong I was!
It’s taken me “a long while” to re-educate myself, but I don’t have that same amount of time left in front of me, to work on it & put it into practice.
I still have a lot of issues with predudices as well as reliance on the grid drug, but I’m still working towards correcting them.
By teaching the next generation through our actions now of making these attempts, cleaning up the air, recycling, etc… we might be able to re-educate them too, from the same bullshit taught to us, and slowly set this place straight. Back on track.December 6, 2010 at 12:00 am in reply to: The Story of Dick Proenneke – off grid the old way #64884
Proenneke’s approach wasn’t aiming to do anything other than, provide himself with a comfortable life while not affecting anyone else’s, and I respect that. His books & home movies (there are several by the way, I have 4 home movies of his myself) were put together by another, outside source, strickly as entertainment & possibly for some monetary gain. Not as an “how-to” guide to today’s permaculturists. Even though, his methods are the best suited to those working within similar conditions & principals of “no electricity required”!
D. Proenneke’s my hero! I played his home movie “Alone in the Wild” for my 73 year old mom during our Thanksgiving here & we both enjoyed it immenselly, comenting several times about how similar he was to her dad, my grandpa, who was another very down to earth, common sense sort of guy.
Infused into a tea by drying out the dandelion leaves & letting this dried mix steep in boiled water.
I know everyone else already knows about this one, but do they beleive in it? It took me a while to beleive. I mocked a freind (in a freindly manner), for always drinking this tea but I’ll be damned if hr isn’t the healthiest alcoholic I’ve ever known! This guy doesn’t catch colds, flu’s. Never is sick a day in his life. So I started!
Mind you, I can’t drink alcohol the way this guy does! My drinking problem extends to a beer or 2 on my birthday, maybe, and then perhaps a drink with my brother perhaps once or twice every 2-3 years. So I just don’t have the benifit of the “alcohol germ-killing” this freind of mine may have.
But it hasn’t hurt me at all! And I have Hep-C. My liver is almost finished. At one time, only a couple years ago, my weight dropped to just over 100 lb’s, almost halved from what I normally weigh, due to this illness.
Strick diet & a change of lifestyle, as well as some much needed medical attention brought me back to a healthier weight. In fact, I weigh more now than I ever have. And I drink Dandelion Tea daily!
I’ve only ever used the 12v d.c. for any of my previous adventures off-grid, so it does make sense to stick with what you know. Future plans of mine are calling for the use of an inverter & genset, but again, I’m well familiar with 120v a.c. too, through decades of home construction & renovating.
If you’re somewhat familiar with 12 v already, it would make more sense to stay with it at first & then progress into using a higher voltage afterwards. Your shack is only to be around 240 sq. ft. so you won’t require a great deal more than what most RV’s have already. By reverse engineering one of these units, it would be a simple task of setting up your own place to re-use most all of the equipment & fixtures from one f these RV’s. If for some reason, you want to convert to 120 volts or more & have your home opened to the scrutiny of an inspector later, you’ll of had lots of time to study more about it.
Tomatoes are the best! I’ve heard it said too, about their medicinal values. Up here in Canada, all citizens are allowed access to the hosplitals & doctors (if you can find one taking on new patients) through our nations healthcare provissions & I think that this has also aided in the abuse of this system. If a person had to pay for each visit, that person would be a lot more careful with what they were doing. But as it stands now, ER’s have as many or more people with flu sympoms & kids with runny noses, than people requiring actual emergency medical treatment.
Most of this could be dealt with through educating the people better. Young mothers now “rush” to the ER’s with their runny-nosed babes, because they just don’t know about mothering & babies. I’ve even heard of people with hangovers trying to get B-12 injections through our hospitals ER dept. (this one I can “almost” understand).
But I think that a better quality of education is the key to better health. Most people now a days do live in an toxic enviroment. The cities they live in mass produce it. They breathe it in all day long & then reside inside a lot of it while at home and eat toxic foods for their meals, then relax with a good smoke & mass bottled beer while wasting the remainder of their time watching their favorite TV shows. And they do this because they just don’t know! They’ve no freekin clue about what they’re doing to their own bodies.
Public schools won’t teach them elsewise either. Heaven forbid if a teacher in the system actually taught something more useful than the 3 R’s. They’d lose their jobs for discriminating against something bigger like their own Teachers Unions financial investments!
Was this person considering forming the community in an already established community with roads, electricity, water & sewers?
Am I ever glad I found this post right away! I just joined a bio-gas site for their available information & also purchased the book “The Jean Pain Method: Or Another Type of Garden”, through another site in France. I’m hoping to create an similar operation as described in the book, by using the thinnings & ground cover from our 100 acres of woodland in Ontario, Canada, as the main food/fuel for the digester.
If you haven’t already, I would suggest reading the book by Jean & Ida Pain. It has some very good ideas for those of us who have woodland acreage at our disposal.