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  • in reply to: off grid in australia #68488
    jengr
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    Sorry to hear you’re feeling lost!  I’m sure many of us feel that way, regardless of whatever kind of community support we have.  I know I do; I live rurally but this agriculture country is getting sprayed twice as heavy as the nearby city with chemtrails.  In the last 2 years since I’ve been here my health as been a constant struggle.  Put me on a mountain top with 30lbs on my back for a few days and I’ll never tire or waiver.  I walk 1/4 mile in this town and my lungs close up and throw me into an asthma attack.  Not to mention other issues that have arisen.

    So I know where you’re coming from, perhaps a bit.  Everyone’s inclined to pass things off.  I’m not a fan of the term “sheeple”, but too many are too ready to take whatever comes and just sit down in the face of crisis.  I live alone too, and the gnawing fear of knowing the air is poison, my skies are polluted, my land is dying, my soil is dying, my trees are dying, wanting to scream and claw my face because for once I just want to see the sun, but week after week it’s blotted out by the obsessive chemtrail spraying.  My only fix is leaving, heading to higher elevations, to national forests, even for a few hours or few days break to recharge.

    Though we all start in different places and have different wants.  You sound like you’re not sure what you want.  I would do some serious thinking on this.  Natural living and electronics don’t exactly go hand in hand.  Literally they can, but ideally they should not.  Screen time is desperately  bad for our health.  That’s just my own opinion though.  Myself?  I’m self employed with online sales, so it’s an evil I endure grudgingly.  I for one would be happy to never see a screen or hear the whir of electronics again!  But to each their own.

    It’s a tough process, and with little or no skill you’ll be hard pressed to find what you want.  My motto?  “Why not?”  I’m at a stage right now where I’m doing everything I can to gain experience; living alone, gardening, canning, freezing, preserving, raising livestock, nurturing the land, composting, downsizing, traveling, meditating and growing spiritually, building my own tools, out buildings, learning to fix things anyways even though you just don’t have what you need, herbalism and botany, hunting, the list goes on.

    Get out, get your feet under you would be my advice.  Go for it, for something, for anything, and see if you like it.  If you don’t, well now you know!  The only place to start is at the beginning!

    in reply to: off grid in australia #68485
    jengr
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    Sorry, haven’t been on.  I just went to look for it and can’t find it, so they must expire?  All is well then :)

    in reply to: off grid in australia #68486
    jengr
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    Are you referring to living on boats?  I’m not a candidate, just curious :)

    in reply to: off grid in australia #68487
    jengr
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    Does this filter out aluminum and other toxins being sprayed around the globe?

    in reply to: How to turn "wanting" into "doing"? #68369
    jengr
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    More good feedback, thank you.

    My urgency to move was reinforced last night. I was walking my dog along the river when the mosquito abatement truck passed and dusted me. I collapsed, unable to breathe. I laid back in the dirt and focused on a single star poking out of a round hole in the clouds, trying to breathe, trying not to panic. It was about 2 hours before I could breathe well enough to stand up and stumble back to my car (although I did fall down a few times). I was extremely disoriented. By the time I got home around midnight I had a fever, my breath tasted like blood, and my face was paper white. Weathered a terrible night and am feeling very put out this morning. This town is going to kill me if I stay another year. That darn truck rolls through town every weekday night, anywhere from 8pm to 2am, spewing liquid permethrin into the air.

    As far as lifestyle prep…  I’ve travelled a lot in my short life.  I’m content living out of a bag, eating what’s available, sleeping on whatever’s available, and generally feeling comfortable being uncomfortable.  Especially camping and being in the wilderness.  All of my few furnishings are second-hand, most of my few electronics I’ve had since I was a kid.  Basically I don’t really spend any money, I don’t buy myself anything (except tools and a new shirt from time to time).  My possessions are largely comprised of tools.  Everything but the saws and drills are hand or gas powered.  Chain saw and log splitter are on my list, maybe a foldable ladder, too.  Unfortunately these are also bulky.  I’ll have to build a shed ASAP, aside from figure out a living area.  I built an 8x12x6′ chicken coop this spring out of repurposed materials.  $100 in scrap vinyl flooring, hinges, and screws for the entire job.  It was done in probably 10 days total, completely by my lonesome.  So I know I can do something to house my tools quickly and relatively easily.

    Gardening and livestock…  I have 40 chickens and 3 turkeys right now.  Mostly this year’s chicks. All pasture/free range non GMO.  The turkeys I’ll be keeping and breeding (1 tom and 2 hens).  I’ve also got a free-range bunny who I intended to breed, but she’s just hangin’ for now.  I can dry process a chicken from alive to freezer in under 1 hour with nothing but a scalpel.  Rabbits are even quicker.  Squirrels I can prep in under 5 min.  Lots of game processing experience!  Taking my birds with me will be a challenge though, especially if I have any limbo time.  I hate to sell off and re-start, but I may have to.  I don’t eat a lot of meat but feed my dog and cats all raw, so fresh meat is a must.   Good hunting/fishing in the area I choose will be mandatory.
    Gardening is another story.  Seeds are in my top ten “must have” items.  I would want to get some healthy perennial patches started ASAP.   I’ve been successful with growing fresh greens in sub-zero temps the last two years.  I’ve been learning more about canning, preserving, and rationing food in the last year.  I don’t eat any grains; they’re expensive, hard to grow in quantity yourself, and are buggers about increasing your appetite.  They’re just not practical. I’m getting my feet under me this year with figuring out sustainable food.  Over half my garden was planted with chicken feed in mind this year, it’s an experiment to see what it will take.  I’ve also been potting grapes, berries, and other fruiting plants with the expectations of bringing them with me.

    Stocking surplus is a good idea.  I hadn’t though of paper goods, like toilet paper and such.  I buy only 100% recycled unbleached rolls.  1 $1.30 roll will last about 2 weeks.  I try to use mostly rags for cleaning, but do buy recycled unbleached paper towels too.  1 $2.30 roll will last about a month.   I’ll sit back and do some math on stockpiling.  I don’t eat any canned or pre-packaged goods from the store, aside from honey, maple products (and other sweeteners), nuts and seeds that I can’t get myself, and I’m sure there’s other things I’m not thinking of.  But my cupboards are typically bare, I eat mostly fresh raw foods.  I will be mass-canning and drying this year though, for experience and stock-piling purposes.

    I am accustomed to washing myself, my clothing, and my dog in the river.  My sister makes an organic, fair trade, 100% raw ‘soap’ out of natural clays and butters.  It’s environmentally safe and works wonderfully.  I can scrub me and my clothes down at the same time, my dog, and anything else that needs it right there in the water.  As I eat very healthy, I don’t often have problems with body odor, so cleaning mostly has to do with physical debris.  Same with my hair.  I can’t imagine missing the washing machine much.  I rarely use mine, and I don’t use detergent.  Line-drying works well for the most part.

    Other thoughts are in regards to power:  A nice fan is always good to have, something to charge the laptop with (if I continue my online business I will need it), my printer (if I’m doing business), charge the phone, run some lights in the morning and evenings, the blender and other small kitchen wares, and if I’m living in a mobile home I’ll need a heater, a fridge and/or freezer, a small water heating system and possibly a water pump.  My tiny speaker system would be nice to keep around for some musical indulgence.  Plus running tools; charging batteries, running a jig saw, air compressor, or who knows what else on rare occasion.  That’s about the extent of my electricity usage.  If I am someday able to build a custom house, some of this can be weeded out; such as space and water heating, by utilizing wood burning stoves.   Solar energy obviously comes to mind first.  I don’t need to run a microwave, oven, tv, or other massive items regularly, so I imagine a solar setup could be attained for under $2,000 to suit my needs.  I’ve read a lot on water and wind energy but don’t feel confident with implementing it.

    Sourcing unwanted things like sinks and such is another good idea.  An outdoor wash basin for fresh produce and dirty hands/feet is a beautiful thing!

    Root cellars are another item I’m reading into.  It would be a must for me!  I’ve seen many style of building and many plans, most seem doable in a short timeframe without much cost.

    Greenhouses…  I’ve done so much looking into this, too!  I kept 1 pepper and 3 tomato plants indoors last year and got a few tomatoes over winter.  Some things do alright inside, but it gets impractical.  I’ve been eyeballing atriums that can function as year-round greenhouses attached to the home.  This feels like a must for any house design I’ve come up with.

    I envision the first year still being co-dependant with some shopping and family support and such.  I can’t have it all right off the bat.  Eventually I fantasize about raising a few pack goats and maybe some fiber animals, but that’s all farther out…</p>

    in reply to: How to turn "wanting" into "doing"? #68360
    jengr
    Participant

    Thank you so much for your replies.  Beast, I emailed you my long response to your inquiries.  Your questions made me think, they were good questions.

    WrethaOffGrid, I imagine having a significant other helped immensely!  I’m lacking in that department, unfortunately.  I’m not in a very good location to find like-minded people.  Your story is inspiring, you make it sound so easy :)

    The areas I’m idly property shopping are affordable and completely unrestricted building wise.  Many of them have mineral rights, even.  But they’re several hours from the the nearest town, zero services or reception (fine by me).  It’s hard to shop seriously when you’re not in a position to buy, but I’ve formulated my requirements.

    I will likely have limbo time with selling; my house now is a manufactured home.  It’s up to code and specs, but there’s a funny quirk with how the concrete foundation was laid and banks are restrictive with giving loans on it (as I found out during the purchase process).  I got a great deal on it and was able to get in, but there may be delays in selling.  I don’t want to hassle renting, and I fear owner-carry could be a total nightmare.  I figure I could live extremely minimal in the house until it sells, and easily move out in one truck load.

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