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Just make it happen. That’s my attitude. I will admit that I looked for land for a long time before I found something we could afford. That was 1995 when we finally bought our property. Found a logger who was tired of paying the taxes and sold us some acreage. He held a 15 year land contract with a small down payment. We spent weekends and every free moment we could steal working on the place. We went without and scratched and saved and paid off the land contract in seven years.
Since we started the project I got lucky and fell into a gig caretaking a property part of the year in Florida. The rest of the year we live off the grid. I will continue to make improvements and prepare. Adding a root cellar this year and maybe an addition to the cabin. Depends how ambitious I feel.
If nothing else we have a peaceful off grid life half the year. We also have the peace of mind that if things get bad for any reason we have a place to go where can live a self sufficient life. We only have six acres but it might as well be 200. We have mature forest all around us. Most of it is land locked and far enough out in the sticks that I doubt it will be developed in my lifetime. Fertile soil and plenty of clean water.
Where there is a will there is a way. As far as a group or community. Not for us. My wife and the occaisional visit from my son and grand daughter is all I need. Oh I find the off grid community concept interesting, but I’d rather not deal with the whole social dynamics of it. I’m the King. I do what I want, when I want. Not saying I don’t have friends or that I’m anti social. When I need help the promise a some cold beer and a camp fire will almost always generate whatever help I need.December 24, 2010 at 12:00 am in reply to: #64931
There is an excellent book that has been out for some time on this topic. “Mortgage Free” by Rob Roy. I actually used his strategy and my off grid place is owned free and clear. We are constantly working towards self sufficiency. We still have to pay taxes but because of a very modest off grid dwelling they are very low relative to what others in my area pay.
Within the next few years we will be able to grow a majority of what we eat. We have abundant clean water and all the firewood I will need in a life time.
We are setting things up so that we can live well on just a few thousand $ a year and can survive on almost nothing if we have to.
Good info elnav. I guess I better spend the winter months researching this in greater detail before I make a purchase.
Wretha you make some great points also. Changing buying habits is huge. There are plenty of foods that do not require refridgeration.November 18, 2010 at 12:00 am in reply to: How do I find an inexpensive lot or land in an eco friendly community #64863
I know this is an old post but a topic that I’m sure is read by a lot of people. Anyone thinking of buying property ought to check out the book “Mortgage Free” by Rob Roy. Lots of good information that is applicable no matter where you are looking. His ideas work just as well in the South West as they would in Ontario or the UK.
I bought my property from a local logger who had recently logged it off and no longer wanted to pay the taxes on it. He held a land contract with $3,000 down for 15 years but I paid him off in seven. Rob Roy presents some great ideas that if put to practice can help a lot of people make their dream of buying land and building a reality.
One of our additions in 2011 will be a small propane refridgerator. We have managed the last 15 years without one, but have only been “off grid” on a part time basis. We have made do with with several large “5 day” coolers. This has never really been satisfactory. Food ends up going to waste because try though you may things end up getting wet and soggy. We are also lucky to have a nice stream that runs through our property with very cold water and we have also availed ourselves of this to keep things cold. We are far enough north that we have four to 4-5 months when it is less an issue.
There are some nice propane fridges available but they are a bit pricey so we have held off but I think next year we are going to take the plunge. I have seen several in use and it seems they work great and will be a big step up from cooler life.
I also am building a large root cellar that although not refridgeration will certainly provide cool storage.
Live without electricity? Not for long. Now live without being tied to the electric grid, that is something entirely different. Although we presently are only “off the grid” half the year, we do enjoy the amenities that our batteries/solar panels and generator provide. We also plan to add a couple of new propane appliances (stove and fridge) next year.
It can be done. I just prefer not to. Buying ice gets too damn expensive and is a lot more trips into town than we care to make.
I appreciate your comments. Seems we are much in agreement on many things.
I take it you are in Canada? Thought seriously about buying property in Nova Scotia a few years back. The exchange rate was in our favor, land was cheap and we just love the Canadian Maritimes. Decided to remain tourists/visitors for a variety of reasons and of course any advantage in the exchange rate is no longer.
Anyway enjoyed hearing your comments.
I can see where this could be a problem for some. My wife and I are both Vets and enrolled in the VA healthcare system. I have actually met a couple of other off grid vets over years while waiting at the VA.
Short of keeping a job with benefits (harder and harder to come by) I guess you have to live as healthy a lifestyle as possible and have some money set aside. A major medical situation could derail you pretty fast.
People who live in remote locations this could be an even more difficult challenge. Keep a good first aid kit and learn as much as you can in the event of an injury. People do it, so it can be done. I also think many of us run to the doctor too much anyway.