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  • in reply to: off grid in australia #68540
    betsy
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    I appreciate all the kind words. It’s interesting to spend a bit of time on this site, because I’ve lived off-grid for so long that it’s not something I think about very much. It’s just normal life for me — so I’m having fun with the discovery that my ordinary day-to-day knowledge can be useful.

    Wretha, I very much liked your freezer-to-fridge conversion blog entry. I wrote a comment there, but maybe the system ate it. Or maybe you haven’t moderated comments yet. Your idea is clever and well-explained.

    Kuldebar, I’m impressed with your courage and planning, as you set out to tackle raw land in a new ecosystem. That will be an adventure!

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    in reply to: off grid in australia #68542
    betsy
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    Wow, that photo is amazing. You’re starting out with pure wilderness! What kind of critters live out there? Do you have to make a road to get in to your land? That’s exciting.

    Thank you for the hugelkultur link. I hadn’t ever heard of that. My land has masses of down trees and branches all over the place; I think I’m going to experiment with making some of those big raised beds. It’ll save me a little money on hiring a tractor.

    Rain water from a metal roof sounds like a great idea for you, as well. I use rain off my roof for fire-fighting water barrels, but otherwise don’t use it. Someday I will. Right now I’ll be doing good if I just clean the tree junk out of all my gutters.

    in reply to: off grid in australia #68530
    betsy
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    Hi, Kuldebar –

    I don’t have any personal knowledge of West Texas, but I have studied a bit about how important water and water rights have been in the development of the western states  in general. When I read your post, I got interested in what kinds of challenges you’ll face as you head into a drought zone. Part of my interest stems from having just helped arrange for a well to be drilled on a parcel of land that our Community Land Trust owns.

    This looks like a resource you probably already have, but if not it’s definitely one that you’ll want:

    https://twon.tamu.edu/media/358238/lowres.pdf

    That pdf includes a link to the list of certified well-drillers, as well as maps and links to help you find whatever Ground Water Conservation district makes the rules for your land. Even working with a good well-driller, you will want to do your own measuring of distances from your land boundaries, neighbors’ wells, septic systems, right of ways, and so on. Because water is so vital in Texas and other dry places, it looks like there’s a ferocious network of regulations you have to be aware of. Eesh. It’s way simpler here in the northwest, because we have water everywhere.

    This might also be helpful to you, in learning about wells that currently exist in your neighborhood:

    https://www.tgpc.state.tx.us/subcommittees/POE/FAQs/StatewideWaterWellDatabases_FAQ.pdf

    Here’s what I know about wells  in general, from my personal experience:

    As you probably know, you pay by the foot. When I had my well drilled, it was fairly terrifying because at something like $20 a foot I could just picture handfuls of $20 bills being thrown into a hole in the ground. You have no guarantee of how deep they have to go, or even if they’ll hit water at all, so it’s hard to gauge prices ahead of time. Your best bet for estimating depth and flow rate is to check the well-logs for the neighboring properties. That’s what that second pdf may help you do.

    Also, drillers sometimes have to use more expensive equipment depending on what type of rock or clay they run into and then suddenly your per-foot price goes up. That happened to us recently. I think our final price is around $30 a foot for the Land Trust well. Your price may be lower, because ours includes the barge fee to get the well drilling rig to the island.

    As far as pumps, they depend on how deep your well is and how many gallons per minute it can produce. Deeper wells need stronger pumps. Slower wells need pumps that sip water gradually.  I don’t have any personal experience with hand pumps in deep wells (I’ve used one at a rented house with a shallow well.) Hand pumps for anything deeper than about 25 feet would have to be awfully carefully engineered in order to lift water that far, and I’m betting they’d end up as expensive as a DC submersible pump. It sounds exhausting to even think about pumping water by hand if you had any garden to irrigate.

    I have a $650 DC submersible pump, but it draws about 14 amps, which means I only run it in bright sunlight or when my generator is directly charging my batteries. It pumps about a gallon a minute, which is fine; it keeps my tank full if I remember to pump pretty often, and I only use about 10 gallons a day for household purposes. Irrigation takes more in summer, of course.

    My well’s flow rate is only about 1 1/2 gallons a minute. Once I lived on property with a 40 gal per minute well; it was incredible. Gushing out of the pipe. My well is 245 feet deep, and just lifting the waterpipe and wires out of it to get the pump out requires two people and a mechanical winch. And you end up with sore arms, not to mention 245 feet of pipe curling through the woods.

    I have a gravity-fed system, but I didn’t have to build a water tower because my land goes downhill a little bit. It’s not a big elevation drop, so my water pressure is kind of sucky: not enough for a flash hot-water heater unless I want to stick another pump in the system, which I don’t. My water tank is about 1000 gallons and I think it cost around $700, but I don’t quite remember. If your area gets any below-freezing temps, then insulating your above-ground pipes is a whole nother thing to consider.

    Also… about well-drillers: you’re right to seek local recommendations, because flaky ones are a headache. The good ones often have long wait lists.

    Let us know how you fare, and how your well-drilling prospects are affected by drought conditions in West Texas. I definitely wish you and your sister the very best!

     

     

     

     

     

    in reply to: Going off grid with 2 kids…..???? #66279
    betsy
    Participant

    Hi, Jerry. I raised a child from age three through age 14 off-grid, and some of that time was before cellphones or internet even existed, so we were really OFF-off-grid. That child is in an ivy league college now. There’s really nothing too different about it, except the absence of TV. The children who live around here tend to be imaginative and self-sufficient, and there’s certainly no problems with obesity because they’re always moving around. It’s important to find a community to be part of, so that the kids have playmates.

    in reply to: What did ya do all day? #66280
    betsy
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    Peddled surplus eggs to neighbors, helped one of my daughters with school financial aid paperwork, took notes at a community meeting, worked on a couple of paintings, cleaned the ashes out of the woodstove, worked on a story I’m writing, cleaned some frames for the beehive, planted spinach and cilantro, tweaked my website, prepared some material for online classes I teach, split some kindling.

    in reply to: #66282
    betsy
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    My for-fun way to relax right now is learning website design. Also playing with random bits of artwork; I spent about 8 hours doing Ukrainian wax-resist egg decorating, the day before Easter.

    in reply to: Hello All :) #66283
    betsy
    Participant

    Hi to everyone! I just found this website. I’ve lived off-grid for 15 of the last 22 years (I had to move to the city from 2001 to 2008, while kids attended high school.) The lifestyle is familiar to me now, and I thought it would be kind of fun to share some of my experiences with people who are wanting to make the leap.

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