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November 14, 2008 at 7:28 pm #36504
I’m considering selling and relocating. I want to build a passive annual heat storage home. Does any one know where there is land available for cheap where like minded people could be neighbors and there would be fewer hassles with the building inspectors?November 14, 2008 at 7:39 pm #40444
Where are you located? I’ve been looking for something similar for the past decade or so; I’ve looked at various ecovillages, vacant lots of land, etc etc…I think (for me, at least) that finding like-minded community will be the key.
I’m in the Boston, MA (USA) area – I think that I’d like to find land/community within a few hours of here (in order to maintain my current job, at least while building/paying for the home).
I *definitely* welcome input/suggestions/questions from like-minded people.November 15, 2008 at 12:20 am #40445
I am in St. Cloud Mn but I am looking here and to the west. Seattle area, Wyoming, Arizona, Oregon, The Black hills.
Let me know if you find anything out this way.November 18, 2008 at 2:38 pm #40449
You can try to Google “Intentional communities”, hit up Ebay Real Estate for the property…Craigslist…Arizona has some cheaper property way out in the sticks…Wyoming is probably gonna be expensive…try westtexasrealty.com they have property in Oregon, IIRC..I found my property thru them on Craigslist I think it was…December 23, 2008 at 12:02 am #40483
I live in East Tennessee in Cocke County. There are no building permits, land is very reasonable and there are quite a few people around here that do things a bit different from the norm.
Hope this helps
CherokeeRoxFebruary 2, 2009 at 9:58 am #40501
I’ve looked across the United States and within other 3rd world countries (when I considered an expat status). There are pros and cons with everything and outside the United States (assuming you were raised in the U.S.) can lead to culture shock. Most areas in the continental U.S. are not conducive to complete off grid/self sufficient living or tend to be dangerous (storms) and or uncomfortable (Temps) during given times of the year. Though one could do a substantial amount for themselves with regard to obtaining energy and food/etc, the mainland U.S. has substantial limitations (this includes growing seasons) when attempting to be 99%+ self sufficient.
After spending nearly 25 years living outside the United States and throughout given regions of the nation, I’ve come to the conclusion that the Big Island of Hawaii has the best “bang for the buck”, so to speak. Living off-grid and attempting to become self sufficient requires a great deal of support by Mother Nature and unless you thrive on simply surviving within Alaska or something to that effect, Hawaii offers the best support Mother Nature can provide.
There is a great deal of inexpensive land available in the south western and far eastern tip of the Big Island (Hawaii itself). Of the two regions the Puna District (far eastern region below Hilo) has the most to offer, inclusive of evading the VOG (volcanic smog) by virtue of the predominate offshore winds. If you’re a wind turbine person, the south west side of the Island will provide you with ample wind and low cost land. Other areas of the Island such as those about Wiamea will offer wind also, with the additional high prices the land will cost you.
Anywhere about the island is pretty much a shoe in for PV and S. Passive and if you’ve deep pockets you can even try your hand at Geo Thermal Energy. The advantages to such a region regarding this sort of living are too vast to cover in this post. Land can be found for very cheap, given areas have many non-permitted structures (permits are required but often ignored). The property taxes for those who live within a permitted structure are very low ($350k home may perhaps be $200 a year in property tax after exemption).
The rainfall is substantial and most houses use rain catchment. PV are used widely. The growing season is all year around. Hawaii is the only U.S. State/ large Island (except a couple very small Florida key islands) completely within the tropic belt (between tropic of Cancer and Capricorn). The temperatures are very stable and fluctuate very little as the island is surrounded by the warm waters of the Pacific at this latitude and at near sea level they hover around 80deg all year round and may dip only down to 60 on an extremely chilley evening or perhaps slightly above 90 on a very hot day in midst of “summer”. There are little to no uncomfortable days or evenings on these islands and neither heat or air conditioning is neccesary. 80 with the tradewinds is perrrrrrfection/paradise.
The active volcano keeps away big industry and most sheople as they fear death by incineration or the token tsunamis . We here fear neither but keep a close eye out on both as each are avoidable with regard to harm. No-one has died by the Volcano unless they were acting in the capacity of being stupid or tossed in by virtue of ancient sacrifice. Only a handfull have died by tsunami by virtue of not knowing what an unexpected super low tide meant and the fact that the warning stations that dot the island had not yet been installed.
Typically I as others on the Island would not breathe a word of these secrets about this paradise, but for fellow off-grid folks and those with the hardy pioneering spirit; the welcome mat is always out (we don’t want city slickers or whiners over here). For the city slickers, please continue to believe that Hawaii is very expensive and filled with storms and deadly volcanoes. Hawaii is home to the oldest cattle ranch in the U.S. and one of the largest, it’s also the home to the original Coyboys that were eventually hired and went to the mainland U.S. to introduce cattle ranching there. Very few people know that fact.
Here’s a link to the best and newest land on planet Earth. http://hawaiiinformation.com
Search by map, set to vacant land and drag over the Big Island and zoom in on the east tip of the Island. I happen to be down there in the jungle of Waa Waa, but you can certainly find stuff real cheap like $5k or less if you look a bit closer to the volcano. For the majority of newbies, you’ll really like Leilani estates and the 1 acre parcels, that will get you primed and you can negotiate those prices down to around $15k or 25k per acre without a view of the pacific. 10 years ago some places were still $500 an acre, so get it while you can before it’s all gone. Some stuff still $5k and acre on the south west side of island but all is now in the VOG most the time the past year.
Tradewinds63February 16, 2009 at 2:13 pm #40512
In neveada you can but chunks of land ranging from 80 to 900 acres where you can do pretty much what ever you want for 80,000 to 100,000 most of the chunks I saw were about 640 acres for under 100,000 with springs and creeks they are in the high desert so there are mountains I lived out there last summer and I loved it if I would have known about the land for sale then I would have stayed I know most people can not afford 100,000 but with 600 acres I would think a group of people would be able to do it together and have enough room to do what they need when I was there we were on a big cattle ranch and I grew a wonderful garden and it’s not blazing hot like you would think it even snowed once in june not bad snow it was up on top of the mountainsFebruary 18, 2009 at 2:51 pm #40514
Hi Trynity, one thing to consider though is how much of those 600acres would be arable land? 5 acres of fertile land with water would sustain a family of 5 easily when properly managed. But unless a person is willing to live quite “native”, you could be hard pressed to try this in the mountains. It’d take some skills to survive all seasons there.
Just my $0,02 worth…March 19, 2009 at 12:46 pm #40523
anyone interested in KY we found a great deal on 122 acres down would be 2,250 and payments would be around 300 a month for halve we are trying to find someone to share it with split it there is nothing on the land the price is only 85,000April 19, 2010 at 6:23 pm #40764
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I know it was a while ago, but are you still looking for no-hassle land? My husband Dan and I have been living off the grid on a ranch in New Mexico for quite some time, so we can certainly help you make the transition. Where we live there are NO building codes and we are making parts of our land available to form a community.
Let me know if you are still looking and take a look at our website:
ShaynaSeptember 12, 2010 at 7:44 pm #40994
Western Mass. NW CT, and mid to north Hudson Valley are great areas, a lot of similar minded people live here. also good agriculture around here, and various animals like sheep, goats, llamas, horses, cows, etc. There is a lot of interest and support around here for off-grid living, also small private agriculture, etc. also plenty of fresh water around, lakes, streams, and decent rainfall.October 24, 2010 at 1:02 pm #41052
Here are some links for inexpensive land….remote as well
Now some of these might be hunting type lands. But loaded with resources. Some of us out here interested in off the grid living wont be just eating garden food…meat is also on the menu.October 25, 2010 at 4:14 pm #41058
http://www.recreationland.netfor northern ontario
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