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This is the only thing I found out about the 21 year old idea that was not conspiracy garbage;

“Maurice Strong, Secretary-general of the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED) in Rio de Janeiro said, “…

Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat consumption and large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and workplace air-conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.”

I had to cut out red meat and high fructose corn syrup because it gave me gout.  I grow lots of my own food because it is better and cheaper.  I produce all my non-emissions power to not only be independent and live cheaper from sweat equity, but to do my share to cut emissions  significantly and in time to prevent the completion of crossing tipping points in nature that will lead to a thermal maximum time period with extinctions of most life, including humans.   I had one child late in life to help prevent the now mathematically/psychologically impossible to stop the separate event of the mass die off from long term study of population science and ecology(i.e. food production decline from a variety of reasons and pure water decline).

Sustainable development, an oxymoron, was mentioned with Agenda 21.  Development of sustainable practices was never done, significantly enough, and there is only 3 to a maximum of 11 years left to reduce emissions 90%, let alone replenish the 2/3 gone soil and groundwater, or stop the depletion of world fisheries, cleanup of 6 oceanic huge trash gyres, mercury laden land and water, even in pristine mountain lakes.

Agenda 21 may have stemmed from the previous Rockefeller Commission report, which was after the Global 2000 report, which was after Nixon’s Commission on Population.  No one has ever had the guts to act on any of the recommendations in time.

Most of what M. Strong said in Agenda 21 is true, but much is missing.  An off-grid independent reasonably well off middle class lifestyle that is 1/20th the average American eco-footprint is possible because we are doing it.

There is no government run project that I have ever heard of promoting the things Koragg brought here on Jan 12 and Feb24.  Except, perhaps to those living illegally.    I did everything legally and according to all the rules with permits for well, septic, driveway, foundations, electrical, plumbing, framing, and final inspection with official certificate of Occupancy.  The coal power company would probably love it if the laws were changed to not allow alternative power systems, but it would be an anti-environmental fight they can not win, especially against grandfathered systems.    I don’t live in an area of natural gas like others who have had their homes ruined in Colorado, or a place in line of a proposed highway or any other government project.   There is no government project to force people to do what I have done, although it would have prevented bad things happening in the future if done when I did them.  The worst thing is the 200K year bottle neck of surface inhospitable conditions or worse.  Deep Ecology, what a terrible thing to know, along with the exponential math that went with it.

I agree the US government is extremely over paid and extremely corrupt to the point of being tyrannical, IMHO.