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Green power in Red Oak

OK folks, Ithought it was relevant as to my reasons for going off the grid…. and something to consider when looking for land to survive on in case of national emergency.

Away from the shadow of a major city is the top priority.

Here is the list in reverse order – Number one at the end.

10. Pikeville, Tennessee.  A small town of about 2000 people with moderate land prices with great natural resources for living off the grid with an added bonus of being in the picturesque Sequatchie Valley.

9. Cedar City, Utah. With a population of 25 to 30.000 people and one of the largest cities to make this list. Utah has an independent attitude as far as other states go. Cedar City has some reasonable priced land with some having beautiful mountain views wich also helped it make the list.

8. Thayer or Alton, Missouri, Located in the South central part of MO, and population of about 2,000. Good hunting and fishing areas and reasonably priced land.

7. Sierra Blanca, Texas

6. Hettinger, North Dakota,  Population of about 1000. In the Southwestern part of the state with reasonable priced land.

5. Carlin, Nevada,  Population of about 2000. Hot high desert area with cheap land.

4. Pennsboro, West Virginia, A cozy little town of about 1200, with a lot of Railroad history — beautiful 100- year-old tunnels and countryside and friendly townspeople. Great place if you’re into hunting and trapping. With land prices starting at $1,000 per acre. This is where I picked to live. And we love it here.

3. West Liberty, Kentucky, A small town in the mountains with a population of about 3000 in the eastern part of the state. Also with reasonable land prices with some as low as 500 per acre in large tracts

2. Mountain Home, Arkansas  Population of about 13000 in the Ozark Mountains

And the number one place to go off the grid — Red Oak, Oklahoma Another small town of only about 500 in Southeastern  OK.  Very reasonable land prices, some for less than 1000 per acre.

Something else to think  about when looking for, or buying rural properties is that people from the illegal drug industry also look for rural places like this to set up shop. So be safe when looking for your off the grid oasis.

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424 Responses to “Ten Best places to Survive in America”

  1. Justin

    It’s honestly pretty enlightening seeing how many people are interested in living this lifestyle. I think its a clear indicator of the failed society we live in and the failed structures we’re all obligated in. Much hope for all those souls searching. I’m only 19 and my journey is just beginning I can only hope to stay on the right path.

  2. WannaBeGone

    66 year old guy here, retired within the last year, unattached, unchained, free to go wherever I’d like/can afford. I’ve tossed around the Houseboat idea (love to fish, catching dinner off the back porch has real appeal), always been captivated by the RV idea ever since I was a kid, and even considered the small town or rural cabin idea, though not really wanting to go completely off the grid. Bottom line is I haven’t found “it” yet.
    I’m in decent health, have good overall handyman/mechanical skills, have been an aircraft mechanic (USAF) in the past, and retired as a computer/network technician, so I have what I consider to be marketable or ‘barter-able’ skills if I feel the need for a little extra pocket money or whatever.
    I initially discounted the idea of posting here, thinking that folks with an “off-the-grid” mindset probably wouldn’t have much use for a computer guy, but then it dawned on me that you all posted here looking, just like me, so you can’t be computer illiterate.
    Anyway, don’t want this to sound like a ‘looking for work’ situation, just letting it be known that all people looking for a way out aren’t necessarily good at, or looking for a place to grow their own food and hide below the radar. Not to piss off those of you who are…
    My upper comfort zone for investment to make this all happen is around $50k, though I’d love to find a Houseboat or RV for half of that, even if it was a bit of a fixer-upper. No significant other in my life to bring some sort of compromise into play, so I can be content with a very simple setup and lifestyle.
    Currently living in North Central California, love the climate here, but hate the political climate. I don’t want to have to learn Spanish just to ‘get along’ here, and I fear that’s where it’s headed, and maybe sooner than later. I’m tired of living where the focus is all on the downtrodden, illegals, and people who can’t figure out what sex they are. I’d rather pay my taxes someplace where it might go to serve those who have worked for what they have and love this country for what it is and how it got here.
    If any of you out there have any ideas that could help me in my quandary, I’d love to hear them. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

  3. Keri

    Currently 41 I have lived off the grid temporarily a few times with my kids. Once in Stairtown, Jamaica for a year and 11 months, once in Perrysound Canada for a short 3 months, and another time for 3 months in the everglades in Florida. It has always been my dream to by a sizable piece of land in Alaska, and then design and build my own house, greenhouse, and barn. To equip all three with solar and wind power and a well and live off the grid. I’ve always been a single parent and my lack of knowledge when it comes to flying and sailing has always stopped me from going all the way with my dream. However two of my kids have graduated and one has left the nest and two are still under the age of eighteen making three all together are still at home. But I will never be able to live with myself if I don’t do what I feel deep down inside is right. I’m looking for someone who’s been to Alaska before and might know the area better than myself although I’ve done a lot of research on the area it doesn’t put me anywhere close to being an expert and although I do like to hunt and fish that doesn’t mean I can go into an unknown area with my kids and automatically do good. I’m looking for other people with the same interest to venture out with me to Alaska to start a life out on the frontier off the grid. If you’re interested contact me:

  4. befree22

    I desire to live among humans not sheeple. We are social beings and too many people are fearfully living the conformist, virtual reality. I pray that I find likeminded souls who enjoy playing board games, working for self sufficiency, simple living and have integrity and values.

  5. Nick

    There is one place that should’ve made this list and that is the Olympic Penninsula in Washington State. It may get cold in winter time but if you spend the summer gathering dry wood you’ll survive it. Tons of wild game and fishing for a food source. Plus a ton of edible vegetation and mushrooms. Just make sure you learn what’s edible from a professional first or you could be dead in no time. I already have my spot picked out if I ever need to get out of the city in a hurry. I go up there a dozen times a year and just keep up with some maintenance of the area and leaving small amounts of supplies that are hidden away from people and animals.

  6. Thomas Thompson

    Me and long term partner would love to leave the rat race and come to an off grid community, or commune for that matter. We live in Jacksonville, Florida. People no longer care about other people. And, most here are all out for their personal gain. We are both willing to adapt and do whatever is necessary to find our place and contribute. We care about people and are longing to be with like minded individuals for a more meaning full life. Definitely looking to relocate. Hopefully someone has some info that could help, If so, please contact me.

  7. RVinJohn

    To frigin COLD

  8. Candis

    Pikeville, TN may be good for JUST going off grid, but I wouldn’t say it’s safe for survival. If a power-grid interruption occurred, this would be a particularly unsafe place to live. Pikeville is only 38 miles from the Sequoyah Nuclear Plant, so if power failures occurred that would prevent cooling or if an earthquake occurred that could disrupt the nuclear core, you’re looking at a deadly level of radiation in that area with little evacuation time. Don’t get me wrong, it is a very beautiful area. My family has a little cabin right off the Tennessee river up there. As far as seclusion and natural resources go, it is great, but you wouldn’t want a primary residence there, especially if you didn’t have anywhere else to go.

  9. Joe Hawk

    I am a 52 year old single gentleman with a 34′ fully self contained motor home and 1 small wonderful dog in search of Long Term Employment though Short term assignments are welcomed. I am a very responsible, honest, personable, dependable, reliable and very skilled individual, in the many facets of industry that i will mention ahead. I am seeking and prefer a long term position although all short term positions are welcomed as I had already mentioned above. My fields of interest would be in but are not limited to campgrounds, resorts, farmland, construction sites, storage facilities, domestic animal rescue centers, commercial land and or personal property. My experiences include but are not limited to several different types of industry businesses such as security and surveillance, account collections, property management and rentals, property maintenance, housekeeping/custodian, landscape construction, design and sprinkler irrigation installations and the general construction trade. I have experience with all types of heavy equipment operations such as backhoe, front end loaders, graders and forklifts. I also have plumbing, carpentry, masonry and electrical experience. One could describe a person like myself as a very versitile master handyman with work experiences that cross over into many different professions. I am a very mechanically incline person who is Computer literate with great management skills. I am set up to live on site with my fully self contained Class A Motor home with you supplying all necessary utilities as well as a nominal salary, in exchange for my skill set and experience that i bring to the table. I am a legal owner of several different types of firearms and can obtain a CCW license for the purpose of protecting your assets should it be a requirement for the position at hand. I would like to thank you in advance for considering me for any possible opportunities that you may have available that may match my skill set and experiences. NOTE: I will be available to travel should it be necessary for the position at hand, however i would like to remain within the Southwestern United States such as California, Nevada or Arizona. Please add BOONDOCKING to subject line so I can avoid spam. Thank You!!

  10. WestTexasLawrence

    I see no details on Sierra Blanca, west Texas pick. That because you didn’t research it?
    Plenty of land available. $500-$750/acre. Water table varies….from 100 to 400 feet. Typical drilling cost $75/foot. Solar exposure is abundant year around….so going totally off grid solar is very viable. Away from the
    cities, no building codes, no restrictions on DIY projects. Ready Mix Concrete, delivered….$120/cu. yard, plus $4/mile. 5 yards minimum.

    Beware: wood lumber prices are outrageous for lumber that would be rejected elsewhere….they sell as #2 grade….$35/sheet for OSB…..2×4 studs …..$6 each….they’ll look you in the eye and laugh as they rip you off
    on materials.

    But, a partially buried and bermed about home of 2000 square feet CAN be built with your own labor and made self sustaining for about $20,000….and if the land is 10 acres….for less than $30,000 you can have a
    remote rural retreat paid for and self sustaining in the Sierra Blanca, west Texas area.


  11. Alrod53

    Been a while since Ive been on this site. We are looking for a couple to help out here on the farm for some up coming projects about to take place this fall and early winter. Now I say couple (boy,girl) because my wife has things she needs help with, canning and collecting and shelling black walnuts, general girl stuff. And I need help timbering and sawing logs to make lumber to erect a 30×60 greenhouse for an aquiculture program that we are going to start. anyone that might be interested contact us at for more details.

  12. Shane

    I am wanting to live off the grid think out west would be best because of weather. Looking for some sort of community already stable. Not looking for a militant type place looking for peaceful hippie type atmosphere. Email me at

  13. Love Lozz

    Looking for an off grid place here in maine…Looking to find a group of like minded people…

  14. alonzo

    Hello Claire, have you found that cabin yet and if so are there other cabins or available sites around? I’m happy to perhaps get to know someone who desire to live a simple live and who also understand the necessity not to engage in others beliefs and opinion. I took off last year to live a simple and off the grid live but found it difficult finding a place to settle. Found myself in Colorado but never found my nitch. Currently back on the east coast but the am yurning to find that simple off the grid living that I sense you seek. Hoping to connect with you to see if we can assist each other in any way.

  15. Mike_42

    Going off-grid with my backpack into Alaska in the next couple weeks. Anyone that wants to go with, please contact me ASAP (

  16. Sandy444

    I am looking for something for myself in California/Tahoe areas . I am so tired of all the bullshit around me. If anyone has a information of areas that are secluded and available, to live please let me know. I’m roughing it. Possibly camping or buying a small RV. God Bless everyone.. ;)

  17. Jeremiah

    Hi, hello, how do you do?? :) I would just like to start by saying it is nice to run into a few more crazies of the like minded. I had begun to wonder if I was just nuts for being fed up with this rat race of a life people seem so proud to live, and it honestly makes me sick. I am to the point where I just refuse to be a slave to a government that doesn’t care about me or my life in the slightest. That being said.. I am a 33 year old male, from Missouri, who has been commercial fishing the cook inlet in Alaska for 3 seasons off the Kenai Peninsula. I was inspired to go by watching deadliest catch, and I had as serious calling.. and it couldn’t be avoided. I had the calling again a couple more years, and so I returned.. but this time, the calling is different. This time, I wish to go and not come back. I’ve been all over the world, and Alaska still has what’s left of the old fashioned values, and just loaded with decent human beings, that genuinely seem to give a shit about their neighbors. People look out for each other, and take care of each other in times of need.. with out rhyme or reason. I want out of this hell hole, and I want to go back to Alaska! I am completely able to move forward with this alone, however, I thought I would check around and see if anyone else is feeling the same way, and maybe find a companion to share the journey with. I am not requesting any kind of skill set or anything of the kind.. as I said I can do it myself, so I don’t mind helping someone else, and teaching anything I know as well. I am going into this with very little pocket money to start, but I have a few solid ideas I am working with to start out, so it’s not a shot in the dark. I know a few people in Alaska from fishing, and I know someone that would allow me to build shelter and use his land to start things out. I would eventually like to move on of course, but it’s a solid starting point. The summer is full of all sorts of jobs if money is needed.. from working at the canneries, fishing work, help mending nets, buy stations can usually use a little extra help at times.. no shortage for some extra cash if needed. Anyway.. if anyone would like to share ideas, and feels like this is something they would be interested in, reply, or email at

  18. peripateticcitizen

    It has been over five years since the ten best places to live was published. I have read many of the comments from the earliest to the latest to get a feel for the general and specific content and say—WOW!!!

    A bit of personal background may be in order to give my comments some perspective. I grew up in the Midwest and spent most of my first 37 years in Minnesota and Wisconsin except for two years in Connecticut after college. I also lived for six years in Las Cruces, New Mexico–Chihuahuan Desert, four years in Oklahoma north of Tulsa, and thirteen years in Oregon where I have lived in four very different locations and climates–living near Medford in southwestern Oregon, John Day in eastern Oregon, Klamath Falls on the eastern flank of the Cascade Mountains (high desert), and presently reside near Roseburg, Oregon in the moderate Cascade Mountains about two hours west of the Pacific Ocean–also considered southwest Oregon but quite different from Medford, Oregon. While living in the John Day, Oregon area for seven years I worked during the week in Portland, Oregon for over a year but commuted back to my ranch each weekend. So, I have been blessed to live in six different states and always lived rurally in each location–except during the week in Portland for about a year. I also became very familiar with the Ozarks of southcentral Missouri and northern Arkansas while I lived in eastern Oklahoma. I have owned farms and ranches in most of these locations and presently own over two and one-half square miles of Oregon in six different properties–all rural in Douglas, Jackson, and Klamath counties. We also own a home on 49 acres in Siskiyou County, California. My wife and I presently live on 126 acres twelve miles east of Roseburg, Oregon–a community of about 21,000 people in Douglas County, Oregon. Douglas County, Oregon has the distinction of being the Number One lumber producing county in the state of Oregon. Since Oregon is the number one lumber producing state in America I presume that would make Douglas County the number one lumber producing county in America. Douglas Fir is the predominant lumber species here and it literally grows like a weed given the best conditions in the world for the growth of this desirable tree species–wet, cool winters and moderate summers with conducive soil types. This last winter we only had four nights of frost with the lowest temperature being about 20 degrees Fahrenheit. The previous winter we had only five frosty nights. I have been in every state in the lower 48 except Mississippi. I have not been in Hawaii or Alaska.
    Let me recommend a website that I have used extensively over the years that has been extremely valuable to me in selecting places to live– I was single for 50 years so had the freedom to live where I wanted and made it a point to live not where I could make the most money but where I thought I could have the best rural lifestyle. It has been fun, interesting, rewarding, and educational. I used this website often to compare any two towns or cities in America–click the Compare Button to compare any two cities by nine different categories, e.g. Crime, Climate, Cost of Living, People, etc. Before selecting a location to live I highly recommend you consider the “Comfort Index”–one of the subcategories under the Climate category that quantifies how “hot” the summer is. Climate, at least for me, is near top of the list of things to consider when choosing where to live. For example, I was lured from southwestern, Oregon to the Tulsa, Oklahoma area by inexpensive land. But after four Oklahoma summers we couldn’t wait to return to Oregon. The Comfort Index for Tulsa is 27 (the website explains what comfort index is)–one of the worst in the lower 48. There were four months there that most everyone stays indoors with air conditioning. This was not something I was willing to do for the rest of my life. Surprisingly, the other 8 months of the year the weather was fantastic. But I learned that, for me, I could not tolerate that level of discomfort for one-third of the year. Also, for those living in rural Oklahoma and much of the southeastern United States, ticks and chiggers also make being active outdoors during summer a very limiting experience. The ticks in the Midwest and other parts of the country are a non-event once you have encountered the seed ticks and chiggers of Oklahoma!!! The Comfort Index for Roseburg, Oregon is 58–a picnic compared to the Tulsa area. There are places like the Colorado Rocky Mountains towns with much better summer Comfort Indexes–but they will have much colder winters and many feet of snow. Weather may or may not be as important to you but has helped me in getting to places with the type of weather I prefer and may help you also. Their Cost of Living Category and other seven categories may help you also. By the way, they rate Corvallis, Oregon the safest place to avoid natural disasters in the entire 50 states. Oregon, in my opinion, is a very benign state, i.e., few tornadoes, hurricanes, snakes, bugs, earthquakes, wind, etc. Things to be aware of if considering Oregon is zoning and building codes. Some counties are more difficult than others. I got so irritated with Jackson County that it had much to do with moving to Oklahoma. Osage County Oklahoma is very building friendly in comparison and has no rural building codes or inspections required at all. Nevertheless, Oregon has been the Number One move-to state in the nation for the last three consecutive years. That speaks volumes. There is a lot here that is attracting people.

    A few comments about living off-grid and independence. Stephen Covey, in his classic book The Seven Habits of Highly Successful People points out that Interdependence allows attainment of a more successful and fulfilling experience than independence. Having lived through Minnesota blizzards and Oklahoma ice storms where entire communities were incapacitated I concur. The American people are extremely resilient, resourceful, helpful, and unselfish. If a natural or man-induced calamity befalls us the most likely to survive and thrive will not be the hermits and hoarders but the cooperative and communicative. “It is not good for man to be alone”–is good Bible advice and prophecy. No man is an island. If you look at all indigenous societies you do not see hermits and hoarders thriving–you see small cooperative societies in which the inhabitants participate and cooperate. We should be acquiring the skills, capabilities, and resources with an attitude of how I may help others when they are in need. The individuals that did the best in the Minnesota blizzards were the ones with the shovels and snowblowers going about the neighborhood clearing the sidewalks of the elderly and disabled without expectation of reward. Americans are at their best when times are worst. To be hunkered down in a bunker defending your stash is a sure way to die a miserable life of selfishness. Better to die of starvation surrounded by friends and family. Trust in God–he promises our bread and water to be sure. I am 62 and have never missed a meal. We have an amazing and loving God.
    The secret to living well is to be content with what you have. The secret to getting ahead financially is to live below your means and invest the portion of income you could have spent. This is contrary to the way most Americans live and our government operates. The results of violating this basic financial principle are evident throughout our country and the world.
    If we suffer a prolonged disaster living in a small home or shelter with minimal requirements will greatly ease the need for heating and cooling. Wood is abundant throughout most of America but it may be impossible to obtain gasoline to cut firewood with a chainsaw. Heating a large home with wood obtained by axe, handsaw, and maul splitting would be challenging for almost all. Most folk do not even own a handsaw, axe, or maul. Living without air-conditioning in much of America would be debilitating for many. An old-fashioned wood cookstove will be a very desirable home appliance–useful during summer and winter. A half-dozen chickens and a couple dairy goats can provide a lot of protein and may be fairly self-sustaining. It also takes about four years to get a good garden producing. A garden is generally not very productive the first few years. It takes a while to learn the best things to grow in an area and to get the soil and conditions optimized for production. So, if you think you are going to make the move when the disaster strikes you are mistaken. There is much lead time required.
    Avoid most of the advice in magazines and newspapers regarding the best places to live. Their research is done from mining statistics without the author having ever set foot in the towns they are recommending and not recommending. Those places are generally for people with a lot of money. The best, most welcoming towns and locations are generally among the lowest income and least glitzy–beautiful places with untrammeled country roads–the “Blue Highways”.
    Here are my favorite places: Despite the rather horrible summers–although slightly (but not much) better than northeastern Oklahoma–the Ozarks of southern Missouri. This area is blessed with incredible freshwater springs that pour pure fresh cool water in huge volumes throughout the year. And, the real estate value (what you get for your dollar) is the best in the USA!!! Hardwood fuel is abundant and there are local people everywhere that already know how to survive if a calamity hits. A great community spirit exists in almost every rural small town. Most everyone has heard of the Ozarks. But, if you have never been there go see this incredible American treasure. I suggest Baker Realty and any United Country Real Estate Office–
    California gets a bad rap and it deserves most of it. But not all of California is the same. That part of California north of Redding is completely different than its southern cousin–and it has the best weather in the entire USA!!!–and the real estate is affordable–but you will still have to deal with California fees and taxes. But don’t let those put you off until you check it out–especially Siskiyou County!!! You will be glad you did.
    If you can tolerate living where there is very little surface water, i.e., rivers, lakes, creeks, ponds, then check out Cochise County, Arizona near Sierra Vista and the hidden jewel, Bisbee, Arizona. The comfort index in Bisbee (65) makes it considerably more comfortable in the summer than Minneapolis, Minnesota (48). It has a great year round weather because it sits above 5000 feet above sea level. The terrain is hilly to mountainous oak savannah–not at all like Tucson or Phoenix. Cool summers and crisp, clear winters. But, you have to be able to live without a daily or weekly water experience. I found out after six years of the Chihuahaun desert near Las Cruces, New Mexico I cannot live for a prolonged period of time without surface water nearby. Having grown up in Minnesota, the Land of Ten Thousand Lakes, there just wasn’t enough water for me there. This part of Arizona is not near as bleak as the Chihuahuan Desert of southern New Mexico.
    If we were not already living in Douglas County, Oregon I would move to Siskiyou, County California because of the weather there. The winters here can be quite gray and long. This is the one thing about this part of Oregon to consider. Some people are not bothered by the winters–they are green and beautiful and mild with almost no snow. If you get out into the weather it is quite pleasant and refreshing. The nearby Oregon coast is the most beautiful of America’s coast say many.
    Here are a couple other websites: if you want to compare other countries besides America in terms of freedom. America has been declining in freedom over the last decade!!! to compare how each of the 50 states compare in freedom. A great website for you to study in order to understand how each state ranks in freedom. All states were created equal but things have changed–they are definitely not all equal now. There are states you may want to avoid based on your personal preferences and demands for personal freedom. The Dakotas rate very well. Check out for ranches is Burleigh County, North Dakota if you can hack the cold. Bismarck, North Dakota is a great place to live if you can survive in snow and ice without any trees. I had enough of that growing up in neighboring Little Falls, Minnesota–about a stones throw east of Lake Wobegon.

  19. claire

    Very interesting concept off -griding and since I am winging this on my own (looking for a place) I can only add that I would love to find a cabin off the road , I don’t discuss politics, I don’t bother with other people’s beliefs – they are their own – and am currently residing in nm though not from here. If anyone knows of any cabins within 50 miles of santa fe – very inexpensive – I would like to hear from you. I am also open to finding one semi close to oceanside ca as i love the ocean as well as the mountains, and of course the wonderful weather. I have tried to find a companion who is like-minded and didn’t so I figure i’ll just figure it out on my own with God’s help. I am over 50, act, sing, interpret so that’s why I need to be within a commutable distance of people.

  20. John Davise

    I and my wife seek other like minded people to form a secure base in the mountain areas of TN.We want to be able to defend the base and recruit more people as the SHTF. My favorite web site is:

  21. Eddy Voss

    Savvy discussion ! I was fascinated by the points ! Does anyone know where I would be able to find a template NJ Residential Lease Agreement document to fill in ?

  22. Mary

    Two widows, on middle age and other senior, need good reasonable land for survival, commune okay, pref in nw mountains, like to have isolation, but may consider commune of the right minded people. we are not into drugs, but do want to live off grid and share a peaceful life. prefer to find a male to sure life with, too. but if I cant, then we just need someplace where we and our fellow commune residences can live and help each other and look after each other incase end of days or other natural disasters do befall the country. If you can help, contact me at thank you.

  23. MAT

    I have the perfect Prepper Property in Oklahoma. 80 Acres with spring fed pond and river. Only one road to it and its at the end of the road. Perfect for an underground Silo. Lot’s of wild life. It’s for sale. Send me email if interested.

  24. tatiana

    IN the mountains of CentrAL aMERICA ALL IS PEACEFUL AND IT’S THE PERFECT CLIMATE FOR GROWING FOOD ANd not relying on horrible weather. The weather is always 60’s to mid 70’s never any higher or lower, If anybody is intrerested i live in Panama and have for over five years and I live simply but i”d like to go off grid. I have an extra room for during our planning:)
    I am fluent in spanish and can get land at a local’s not gringo price:) if interested add me as a friend and email me.
    I am looking to partner with someone to go off the grid. I am flexible on place but not climate. I have grown accustomed to beautiful cool not hot and not freezing weather. I am american and the daughter of expats living in Central America and the caribbean as a child and returning due to the kindness and non-materialistic way of the latinos. Rutral land is cheap and I have explored all temperate areas from Mexico to Peru and parts of patagonia. please rply with questions!!!! P.S.I am young but I am not ageist I love all people regardless of age ability or creed.
    Peace and hope you make it off the grid,

    • David Muikkin

      Im ready to come there if your still looking for someone to hang with . i can build or fix anything, lived in jungles, need a change, David

  25. tatiana

    I have a place in panama I am an American expat and can get us cheap land I speak spanish fluently and it is safe and beautiful here. International living ranked it top 10 places to retire. I am in the bread basket. Beautiful pristine mountains of panama and they have easy ways to get residency especially for retirees which I am not i am young but I am not ageist. Just looking for like minded people. Check out my ad on landbuddy here. Peace be with you.

  26. JimBob6.8

    Jimeny Cricket! What a long and wandering thread!
    IMHO the what will be crucial to success for EVERYONE is a positive attitude resulting from our close personal relationship with God.
    The title of the thread pertained to the best locations for living off the grid to survive when our civilization malfunctions (sans the extended warranty).

  27. Muldoon

    All great comments.
    But when I think of living off the land, I analyze it this way.
    Land, resouces, location.
    Cheap land is fine, but does the location provide the resouces. I live in Wisconsin along Lake Michigan. We don’t have real cheap land, but the resouces in my area is abundant..Clean well water, great land, (short growing season, but can build greenhouses), inland lakes for fishing, Lake Michigan for big fish, (boat needed?, clean fish if you go out 10 miles) hunting if you are a meat eater, abundant herbs in the Kettle Moraine Forest, (wild berries, asparagas, etc.) Excellent organic dairy farmers, Milk, Cheese, etc.
    So, you get the point. Resouces surrounding your land, especially excellent spring water, is everything.

  28. Ben Angle

    32yr old male Army veteran looking to go off grid. Please contact me at


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