60% of energy lost in the power grid
by ALEXBENADY on APRIL 11, 2010 - 2 Comments in energy

Tim Green by name...

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The current system of generating electricity centrally and distributing it through the grid wastes as much as sixty per cent of energy -and it ain’t about to get any better, a leading UK academic has told Off-Grid.
Tim Green, Professor of Power Engineering at Imperial College London told us  that efficiency losses in power generation are the biggest issue facing the power industry today.
He estimated that energy losses in the power grid during generation of electricity are between 45 per cent and 55 per cent, depending on the technology used. The transmission system run by National Grid which does the bulk shipping of electricity in the UK, loses a further two or three per cent. Local distribution networks run by big power companies have losses of between five and seven per cent.
“The local distribution networks have higher losses than National Grid because they operate at lower voltages,“ explained Professor Green.
Limited generating efficiency
But he said that it would be too expensive to make transmission more efficient and that generating efficiency is limited by the laws of physics. “(Transmission efficiency) could be improved if one was prepared to invest heavily in more wires and cables. But frankly it is not the biggest problem facing the industry.”
For networks, the real issues are how to accommodate low-carbon sources, such as wind, and still run a reliable and cost effective system, he said.
The story is very different for generation where he said efficiency is the biggest problem the industry has. “In energy generation you simply cannot achieve 100% efficiency -or anything close to it because of thermodynamic limitations such as maximum operating temperatures.”
However he was anxious to separate the issues of power generation and transmission, which he sees as unrelated, “It is highly misleading to lump generation and transmission networks together and give an overall loss figure because there are two different sets of issues at play and two different approaches needed.”
Of the conventional generating technologies, There are several competing generation technologies and some are more efficient than others, he said. “Combined Cycle Gas Turbines can achieve 55% efficiency or so and beats coal stations which do well to achieve 45%. If one can find a use for the “waste” heat in combined heat and power  then the overall [efficiency] can be substantially better,” he says.
But he argued that conventional power sources compared well to newer technologies such as photo-voltaic, “Photo-voltaic panels have efficiencies in the range 10-25% depending on materials and cost.”
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2 comments

1 elnav { 04.12.10 at 12:52 am }

Seeing those statistics and efficiency numbers reminds me of a quote I saw recently “87.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot. The rest varies according to the credibility of the narrator”
Having worked in the power distribution field I see evidence of data management as a worst case engineering calculation. What isn’t provided is comparable data showing how efficient alternative and so called grren power sources are. For example it has been said that solar insolation is 1000 watts per square meter. but only at noon when the sun is directly overhead. Why is it then, one of the big solar panels are hard put to deliver only 200 watts at best times. I make that a 20% efficiency. If you calculate the energy needed to create solar panels the stats can get even less optimistic. Payback is often measured in decades.
Just because sunshine is free doesn’t means the conversion equipment is also free.
A properly designed power transmission system should not exceed 5% worst case under highest loading a greatest voltage drop. If it does, it indicates abuse of the system capacity or ageing installations that should be replaced.

2 Merlin { 07.06.14 at 12:33 pm }

I know this is an old post but it came up while I was trying to research losses in the grid and I can’t stand finding misleading statistics. Also don’t get me wrong, I live off-grid and believe that local micro-generation is the way to go for many reasons. I think the 60% figure comes from a calculation including the conversion of the raw fuel into electricity (ie the inefficiency of the power stations) as well as transmission and distribution losses (the smaller factor). Please, if stating statistics, reference your sources. This would have saved me a lot of time!!

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