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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2010/01/16/vegetable-factory-in-a-box/comment-page-1/#comment-383535</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 01:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stephanie

Welcome to the real world. You are in for a long and disappointing ride.</description>
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<p>Welcome to the real world. You are in for a long and disappointing ride.</p>
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		<title>By: muhammedaslam</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2010/01/16/vegetable-factory-in-a-box/comment-page-1/#comment-350849</link>
		<dc:creator>muhammedaslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iam a hvac technition in qatar 12 years exp all ac</description>
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		<title>By: The Future, Vegetable Factories&#8230; &#171; A Single Mom&#39;s Adventure into Urban Homesteading</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Future, Vegetable Factories&#8230; &#171; A Single Mom&#39;s Adventure into Urban Homesteading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But they aren&#8217;t the only ones thinking about growing food for cities or to decrease hunger. Japan is already producing food this way for the masses. They had a case of tainted food from China and then decided they would create these Vegetable Factories to control their own food. http://www.off-grid.net/2010/01/16/vegetable-factory-in-a-box/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But they aren&#8217;t the only ones thinking about growing food for cities or to decrease hunger. Japan is already producing food this way for the masses. They had a case of tainted food from China and then decided they would create these Vegetable Factories to control their own food. <a href="http://www.off-grid.net/2010/01/16/vegetable-factory-in-a-box/" rel="nofollow">http://www.off-grid.net/2010/01/16/vegetable-factory-in-a-box/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2010/01/16/vegetable-factory-in-a-box/comment-page-1/#comment-307868</link>
		<dc:creator>stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Trinidad and currently i am attending the University of the West Indies. I am intrested in opening a vegetable factory but not merly a factory. I would like to grow fruits and vegetables indoors using LED lighting, hydophonics, water circulation etc..i am 23 years old and i would like some advice in opening this buisness. In whatever way you can assist me please do. Thanking you in advance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Trinidad and currently i am attending the University of the West Indies. I am intrested in opening a vegetable factory but not merly a factory. I would like to grow fruits and vegetables indoors using LED lighting, hydophonics, water circulation etc..i am 23 years old and i would like some advice in opening this buisness. In whatever way you can assist me please do. Thanking you in advance</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Green</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2010/01/16/vegetable-factory-in-a-box/comment-page-1/#comment-283040</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In actuality this is not a new concept. This idea was first realized as a way to grow hydroponics fodder/ grass/ sprouts 365 days a year come wind, sleet, or snow more than ten years ago. The only difference now is that they are 1. Using LED technology originally developed by NASA and 2. Now picked up by big business.

The thing is, that LED lights only give off (though efficient) a small amount of radiation. Plants use what is known as PAR energy (photo active radiation) through a wide range of spectrums, focusing on “blue” light at 425-450 nm (nanometers) for growing greens and 600-650nm for flowering/ fruiting. Yes plants can be grown with LEDs but in order to supply each part of the plant with as full a spectrum as possible, the plants or the lights have to be in patterns and they have to move, so at this point in time, I see this as more of a gimmick than true production able technology.

I can supply plans or build one for you, using T-5 florescent tubes if you are serious.

P.S. The Omega garden was the best design of its time, but due to its super high cost for initial investment, is now defunct. There are other comparatively energy efficient methods to grow greens but are bulky and awkward to use. Sun power is still the best choice unless none is available.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In actuality this is not a new concept. This idea was first realized as a way to grow hydroponics fodder/ grass/ sprouts 365 days a year come wind, sleet, or snow more than ten years ago. The only difference now is that they are 1. Using LED technology originally developed by NASA and 2. Now picked up by big business.</p>
<p>The thing is, that LED lights only give off (though efficient) a small amount of radiation. Plants use what is known as PAR energy (photo active radiation) through a wide range of spectrums, focusing on “blue” light at 425-450 nm (nanometers) for growing greens and 600-650nm for flowering/ fruiting. Yes plants can be grown with LEDs but in order to supply each part of the plant with as full a spectrum as possible, the plants or the lights have to be in patterns and they have to move, so at this point in time, I see this as more of a gimmick than true production able technology.</p>
<p>I can supply plans or build one for you, using T-5 florescent tubes if you are serious.</p>
<p>P.S. The Omega garden was the best design of its time, but due to its super high cost for initial investment, is now defunct. There are other comparatively energy efficient methods to grow greens but are bulky and awkward to use. Sun power is still the best choice unless none is available.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: elnav</title>
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		<dc:creator>elnav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the glut of shipping container found in most  North American entre-ports  it should be easy to buy good used containers.  Locally in Vancouver BC area  such containers  sell for under $2000.  Would  the design details of the required  electrical and plumbing for hydroponics be available to the public?
There are at least  two companies I know of  currently  selling  shipping containers to the public.  Great  Idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the glut of shipping container found in most  North American entre-ports  it should be easy to buy good used containers.  Locally in Vancouver BC area  such containers  sell for under $2000.  Would  the design details of the required  electrical and plumbing for hydroponics be available to the public?<br />
There are at least  two companies I know of  currently  selling  shipping containers to the public.  Great  Idea!</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Hidroponia en contenedor.</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Hidroponia en contenedor.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GIRIDHAR.PAI</title>
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		<dc:creator>GIRIDHAR.PAI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sir I think this is simailar to the www.omegagardens.com of AMERICAN COMPANY BUT I FEEL THIS MUST BE SUPIRIOR 
to that of USA, pls send me the details and cd and and other metirial to know more about this product, any how how the rate looks too hih  pls send the financial details worckout

THANKING YOU                                                                       GIRIDHAR.PAI
BHARATH MATA KI JAI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sir I think this is simailar to the <a href="http://www.omegagardens.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.omegagardens.com</a> of AMERICAN COMPANY BUT I FEEL THIS MUST BE SUPIRIOR<br />
to that of USA, pls send me the details and cd and and other metirial to know more about this product, any how how the rate looks too hih  pls send the financial details worckout</p>
<p>THANKING YOU                                                                       GIRIDHAR.PAI<br />
BHARATH MATA KI JAI</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like what I wanted to try and build 6 years ago.  Only mine was for people off grid. 8ft X 12ft x 7ft. Led lights were my first thought  but I am trying to use the water coming out of the ground that is at 48 to 50 degrees. Heat transfer with a solar charging system. The price still seems to get in the way regardless what I try.  It sound like a good idea for pest control and production. But for the small off grid person it seems to be the $$$  costs you to get a fresh saled. But it does work and in the future there will a need for these. Best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like what I wanted to try and build 6 years ago.  Only mine was for people off grid. 8ft X 12ft x 7ft. Led lights were my first thought  but I am trying to use the water coming out of the ground that is at 48 to 50 degrees. Heat transfer with a solar charging system. The price still seems to get in the way regardless what I try.  It sound like a good idea for pest control and production. But for the small off grid person it seems to be the $$$  costs you to get a fresh saled. But it does work and in the future there will a need for these. Best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: g stuart d ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>g stuart d ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great idea, I am based in Africa and this would provide an excellent deterrent to rodents, insects and theft. keep up the good work. 
cheers
gsw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great idea, I am based in Africa and this would provide an excellent deterrent to rodents, insects and theft. keep up the good work.<br />
cheers<br />
gsw</p>
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