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		<title>By: Steve Goldman</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/11/23/wish-we-thought-of-that/comment-page-1/#comment-353539</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who owns the water?

There is so much freshwater up here in Canada that it often occurs to me that the USA will wage a water war to get what it wants!
-Steve.</description>
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<p>There is so much freshwater up here in Canada that it often occurs to me that the USA will wage a water war to get what it wants!<br />
-Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: michael thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is insane, who the hell can tell you to STOP collecting rain water? is it just me or is big brother getting way out of hand, can you say none of your damn business....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is insane, who the hell can tell you to STOP collecting rain water? is it just me or is big brother getting way out of hand, can you say none of your damn business&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: vandeg</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/11/23/wish-we-thought-of-that/comment-page-1/#comment-337052</link>
		<dc:creator>vandeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I brew at home and rainwater is far superior to almost any water source! Depending on your well water though, calcium rich water is good. Either way I have a friend who did a rainwater batch, though it was pretty green, the mouth feel was really good. I also would hate to break it to the officials in Atlanta but most microbreweries get their water from the city and filter it and even if it is pumped from a well its filtered. Why should rain be any different?

If I have to buy beer, its usually from a local brewery anyway. It tastes better, you know who brewed it, get first hand answers usually from the brewer about whats in it and I reuse the bottles to make my own beer. (I can only use crown caps, not those twist off tops)

Buy microbrew whenever possible otherwise homebrew because the more you make the cheaper it gets and you can also make more beer that is weaker but still able to keep with time, in essence your water supply can be kept over a long period of time. Look up smallbeer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I brew at home and rainwater is far superior to almost any water source! Depending on your well water though, calcium rich water is good. Either way I have a friend who did a rainwater batch, though it was pretty green, the mouth feel was really good. I also would hate to break it to the officials in Atlanta but most microbreweries get their water from the city and filter it and even if it is pumped from a well its filtered. Why should rain be any different?</p>
<p>If I have to buy beer, its usually from a local brewery anyway. It tastes better, you know who brewed it, get first hand answers usually from the brewer about whats in it and I reuse the bottles to make my own beer. (I can only use crown caps, not those twist off tops)</p>
<p>Buy microbrew whenever possible otherwise homebrew because the more you make the cheaper it gets and you can also make more beer that is weaker but still able to keep with time, in essence your water supply can be kept over a long period of time. Look up smallbeer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Berry  Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berry  Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey before you get too far up in arms. Consider that they are producing a product for human consumption.  I think its an awsome idea and initiave, however, you have got to be able to back it up with a defensible evidence that you are producing a clean product.  The EPA, FDA &amp; Public Health Department etc.  have an obligation to do just that especially where it involves product made for human consumption.  The fact that they aren&#039;t up to speed on some of the technology  is exactly why education is neccessary.  I sincerely hope that the brewery is successful in doing so because they are truly on the right track.  However, no regulatory agency will go out on a limb to approve new technology until the proponetants of that technology can prove that it is viable and safe and can be documented.   You can thank the lawyers for that mind-set. 

By the way if Budweiser or Miller could collect enough rain water and insure consistency they would have done it a long time ago.  Large breweries are focused on reducing costs wherever possible while maintaining a consistent product.   They certainly aren&#039;t worried about a brew pub in Atlanta since the Cartersville, GA plant produces more beer every 30-min than a large brewpub can produce in an entire year.

 Re: Taxes &amp; Alcohol: The taxes paid by the brewery, distributor &amp; retailer (3 tier States incl. GA) far exceed any kind of revenues that would be collected by the sale of the potable water used for brewing.  The same goes for the taxes associated with a brew pub that manufactures and sells their product on-site. 

By the way in several municipalities in California they do use recycled water for potable water in some cases it may be consumed ,&quot;expelled&quot; &amp; treated again 5-7 times before it ever reaches the ocean.  The breweries in those areas also use that water.  

I suggest that people continue to support the brewery and their efforts as it will benefit everyone in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey before you get too far up in arms. Consider that they are producing a product for human consumption.  I think its an awsome idea and initiave, however, you have got to be able to back it up with a defensible evidence that you are producing a clean product.  The EPA, FDA &amp; Public Health Department etc.  have an obligation to do just that especially where it involves product made for human consumption.  The fact that they aren&#8217;t up to speed on some of the technology  is exactly why education is neccessary.  I sincerely hope that the brewery is successful in doing so because they are truly on the right track.  However, no regulatory agency will go out on a limb to approve new technology until the proponetants of that technology can prove that it is viable and safe and can be documented.   You can thank the lawyers for that mind-set. </p>
<p>By the way if Budweiser or Miller could collect enough rain water and insure consistency they would have done it a long time ago.  Large breweries are focused on reducing costs wherever possible while maintaining a consistent product.   They certainly aren&#8217;t worried about a brew pub in Atlanta since the Cartersville, GA plant produces more beer every 30-min than a large brewpub can produce in an entire year.</p>
<p> Re: Taxes &amp; Alcohol: The taxes paid by the brewery, distributor &amp; retailer (3 tier States incl. GA) far exceed any kind of revenues that would be collected by the sale of the potable water used for brewing.  The same goes for the taxes associated with a brew pub that manufactures and sells their product on-site. </p>
<p>By the way in several municipalities in California they do use recycled water for potable water in some cases it may be consumed ,&#8221;expelled&#8221; &amp; treated again 5-7 times before it ever reaches the ocean.  The breweries in those areas also use that water.  </p>
<p>I suggest that people continue to support the brewery and their efforts as it will benefit everyone in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course 5 Seasons is being persecuted... they aren&#039;t paying TAX on rainwater, as they would if they used city water to make their beer.  TAX is what fuels all branches of government.
That&#039;s the real reason things won&#039;t change much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course 5 Seasons is being persecuted&#8230; they aren&#8217;t paying TAX on rainwater, as they would if they used city water to make their beer.  TAX is what fuels all branches of government.<br />
That&#8217;s the real reason things won&#8217;t change much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cadfael</title>
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		<dc:creator>cadfael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ye gods!!
What is WRONG with these people?!!
Dutch, I think you just hit the nail right on the thumb, cant POSSIBLY have something that is not overpriced,over processed, but above all FREE!!
Land of the free?
yeah, right, but only if you pay through the nose for it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ye gods!!<br />
What is WRONG with these people?!!<br />
Dutch, I think you just hit the nail right on the thumb, cant POSSIBLY have something that is not overpriced,over processed, but above all FREE!!<br />
Land of the free?<br />
yeah, right, but only if you pay through the nose for it!</p>
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		<title>By: Lornkanaga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lornkanaga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering Atlanta&#039;s water shortage, they should be happy a business is reducing its municipal water usage in a responsible manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering Atlanta&#8217;s water shortage, they should be happy a business is reducing its municipal water usage in a responsible manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Kriket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kriket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait.... they are regulating what falls out of the sky?! Maybe they should make beer with recycled urine. See what the health department thinks of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230;. they are regulating what falls out of the sky?! Maybe they should make beer with recycled urine. See what the health department thinks of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dutch Barracuda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dutch Barracuda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can hear the rumbling now. 
&quot;Not using our mains supply? Gathering your OWN water? Refusing to pay our extortionate water bills in our arid country? Despicable.&quot;
I so desperately want to line up these bureaucrats, running along with one hand out and slapping them all in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can hear the rumbling now.<br />
&#8220;Not using our mains supply? Gathering your OWN water? Refusing to pay our extortionate water bills in our arid country? Despicable.&#8221;<br />
I so desperately want to line up these bureaucrats, running along with one hand out and slapping them all in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Wretha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wretha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Bro, leave them alone! It amazes me that the &quot;authorities&quot; would have no problem with them if they had used the chemically enhanced city water, but let them use what nature provides and boom, the government puts a big stop to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Bro, leave them alone! It amazes me that the &#8220;authorities&#8221; would have no problem with them if they had used the chemically enhanced city water, but let them use what nature provides and boom, the government puts a big stop to it.</p>
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