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		<title>By: truthseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-295152</link>
		<dc:creator>truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people believe those claims of free energy? There is no such thing as free energy. If people are stupid enough to order a plan, they are ready for a lesson and 50 dollars is not an expensive lesson compared to what i paid the garage last week for not renewing the motoroil of my car. Still, fraud is wrong and should be prosecuted. It&#039;s better to tell people they can save over 60% of their energybills if they wash their laundry low temperature or cold. If they throw away their electric waterheater and if they never iron their laundry again. Do your dirty dishes by hand instead of a powerconsuming electric dishwasher. These things really pays off.
If your not ready to do this, get an extra job to pay for your energybill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people believe those claims of free energy? There is no such thing as free energy. If people are stupid enough to order a plan, they are ready for a lesson and 50 dollars is not an expensive lesson compared to what i paid the garage last week for not renewing the motoroil of my car. Still, fraud is wrong and should be prosecuted. It&#8217;s better to tell people they can save over 60% of their energybills if they wash their laundry low temperature or cold. If they throw away their electric waterheater and if they never iron their laundry again. Do your dirty dishes by hand instead of a powerconsuming electric dishwasher. These things really pays off.<br />
If your not ready to do this, get an extra job to pay for your energybill.</p>
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		<title>By: Tribal</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-285261</link>
		<dc:creator>Tribal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anyone who did buy the Magniwork product, it is sold through ClickBank and they have a money back return policy for all their products so if you just contact them you should be able to get your money back.  

It is too bad, when I first saw it I wanted to buy it too, it is unfortunate fraudsters like that make it more difficult for true scientist and engineers to get the investors that are needed to create these technologies so needed for our survival.  
If you want to check out a cool concept and project which is not taking any large corporate sponsorship or donations (so no one can tell them what or how to run things) and is going to make available for free all they discover check out ConstructZero.org   Really cool thing to do to give back.  I am not associated with them I just love the concept and wanted to spread the word. we need more groups, companies like that. Enjoyu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone who did buy the Magniwork product, it is sold through ClickBank and they have a money back return policy for all their products so if you just contact them you should be able to get your money back.  </p>
<p>It is too bad, when I first saw it I wanted to buy it too, it is unfortunate fraudsters like that make it more difficult for true scientist and engineers to get the investors that are needed to create these technologies so needed for our survival.<br />
If you want to check out a cool concept and project which is not taking any large corporate sponsorship or donations (so no one can tell them what or how to run things) and is going to make available for free all they discover check out ConstructZero.org   Really cool thing to do to give back.  I am not associated with them I just love the concept and wanted to spread the word. we need more groups, companies like that. Enjoyu.</p>
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		<title>By: micky</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-274836</link>
		<dc:creator>micky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, there is a spelling error in the plan but i&#039;m making it &amp;i &#039;ll let u guys know when i finish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, there is a spelling error in the plan but i&#8217;m making it &amp;i &#8216;ll let u guys know when i finish.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertie Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-269412</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertie Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I complained to the Advertising Standards Authority when an advert for this &#039;product&#039; appeared in the UK &#039;Daily Mail&#039; on line.
The &#039;company&#039; blamed &#039;affiliate advertisers&#039; and have said the claim for &#039;free electricity&#039; won&#039;t be repeated.  The ASA has upheld my complaint.
However, on receipt of the letter today I check on the Internet to find that the same absurd claim is being made everywhere by them.  As it&#039;s not a UK website the ASA can take no action I guess.
Google is in a position to do this.  Why don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I complained to the Advertising Standards Authority when an advert for this &#8216;product&#8217; appeared in the UK &#8216;Daily Mail&#8217; on line.<br />
The &#8216;company&#8217; blamed &#8216;affiliate advertisers&#8217; and have said the claim for &#8216;free electricity&#8217; won&#8217;t be repeated.  The ASA has upheld my complaint.<br />
However, on receipt of the letter today I check on the Internet to find that the same absurd claim is being made everywhere by them.  As it&#8217;s not a UK website the ASA can take no action I guess.<br />
Google is in a position to do this.  Why don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: boyan</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-265909</link>
		<dc:creator>boyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi can someone send the plans of that &quot;scam&quot; to me. I am curious to look at them? thanks
Boyan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi can someone send the plans of that &#8220;scam&#8221; to me. I am curious to look at them? thanks<br />
Boyan</p>
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		<title>By: H Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-256254</link>
		<dc:creator>H Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Not one &quot;over unity&quot; device has ever made more energy then it took to run it - ever.

The good news:

Solar works.
Wind Energy Works.
Nuclear power Works.
Hydro Electric works
Tidal power works.

New (and proven) nuclear reactors can recycle and re-use over 90% of its own waste. This could be used long enough until we find something better. There&#039;s enough nuclear fuel to last  for centuries.

Note that all the workable solutions were developed by teams of physicists, scientists, and others working together for a common goal. Compare this to spending $50 on an internet scam so you can be the one to &quot;save the world&quot;.  Kind of puts it into perspective doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Not one &#8220;over unity&#8221; device has ever made more energy then it took to run it &#8211; ever.</p>
<p>The good news:</p>
<p>Solar works.<br />
Wind Energy Works.<br />
Nuclear power Works.<br />
Hydro Electric works<br />
Tidal power works.</p>
<p>New (and proven) nuclear reactors can recycle and re-use over 90% of its own waste. This could be used long enough until we find something better. There&#8217;s enough nuclear fuel to last  for centuries.</p>
<p>Note that all the workable solutions were developed by teams of physicists, scientists, and others working together for a common goal. Compare this to spending $50 on an internet scam so you can be the one to &#8220;save the world&#8221;.  Kind of puts it into perspective doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-255625</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there no one who has actually made electricity from any device?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there no one who has actually made electricity from any device?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Free</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-254371</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insidiously, this article itself — as of 6 Dec 2009 —  has a prominent Google sidebar with what looks like two advertising items:
&quot;Ads by Google
&quot;Make a Magnetic Generator - To Create Free Electricity to Power Your Home, A Must Read, Get it Now - Electricity-Generator.net&quot;
and:
&quot;Magnetic Generator Plans - Use magnetic power to generate free electricity to power a home &amp; more - URL REMOVED BY OFF-GRID EDITOR&quot;
Each has a footer: &quot;Affiliate of Magniwork&quot;
 
In fact, they are identical links  directing you to the: 
&quot;Magniworks Main Website. Just  Link Below&quot;
&quot;URL REMOVED BY OFF-GRID EDITOR&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insidiously, this article itself — as of 6 Dec 2009 —  has a prominent Google sidebar with what looks like two advertising items:<br />
&#8220;Ads by Google<br />
&#8220;Make a Magnetic Generator &#8211; To Create Free Electricity to Power Your Home, A Must Read, Get it Now &#8211; Electricity-Generator.net&#8221;<br />
and:<br />
&#8220;Magnetic Generator Plans &#8211; Use magnetic power to generate free electricity to power a home &amp; more &#8211; URL REMOVED BY OFF-GRID EDITOR&#8221;<br />
Each has a footer: &#8220;Affiliate of Magniwork&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, they are identical links  directing you to the:<br />
&#8220;Magniworks Main Website. Just  Link Below&#8221;<br />
&#8220;URL REMOVED BY OFF-GRID EDITOR&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GENRAY</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-252977</link>
		<dc:creator>GENRAY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT MAGNIWORK IS A SCAM SAVE YOUR MONEY AND CHECK IT OUT ON THE FREE POSTINGS OF THE BOGUS PLANS
BUT IF YOU REALLY INTERESTED LOOK UP TROY REED THIS GUY REALLY RATES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNbJ1aew-BQ&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT MAGNIWORK IS A SCAM SAVE YOUR MONEY AND CHECK IT OUT ON THE FREE POSTINGS OF THE BOGUS PLANS<br />
BUT IF YOU REALLY INTERESTED LOOK UP TROY REED THIS GUY REALLY RATES <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNbJ1aew-BQ&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNbJ1aew-BQ&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: H Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-247827</link>
		<dc:creator>H Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>howie,

Sorry you lost you money. It took a lot of courage and honesty to post your experience. Perhaps it will warn others away.

Harvey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>howie,</p>
<p>Sorry you lost you money. It took a lot of courage and honesty to post your experience. Perhaps it will warn others away.</p>
<p>Harvey</p>
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		<title>By: howie</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-246507</link>
		<dc:creator>howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes  i have sent my money to them , cant get in touch with them 
 yes i have down loaded my scam of a 57 page    SCAM  is there any address being in the uk,
 what a fool i was,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes  i have sent my money to them , cant get in touch with them<br />
 yes i have down loaded my scam of a 57 page    SCAM  is there any address being in the uk,<br />
 what a fool i was,</p>
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		<title>By: H Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-242145</link>
		<dc:creator>H Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never in the history of the internet has anyone mounted a more thorough propaganda campaign. The criminals (in my opinion) behind this really know how to manipulate search engines so it&#039;s almost impossible to find anything negative about it. In addition, chat rooms are found and bogus success stories are posted, negative comments removed. What a clever and massive effort they have demonstrated. If they devoted all that effort for the good of mankind, we would all know their names. As it is, they must hide their identity. How do we know they are bogus? In all the history of mankind no one has ever produced a free energy machine that can be operated by an independent party. Never. Not one time. Only the so called inventors can ever demonstrate it in controlled conditions. Be real, what are the chances of you the reader finding one on the internet? One that you can easily build in your spare time and can be explained with elementary school level pseudo science? No really important discovery can be kept a secret for long. The technology for the atomic bomb was even published and available to the public (it&#039;s been recalled since).

Don&#039;t be so open minded that your brain falls out (not to mention your wallet as well).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never in the history of the internet has anyone mounted a more thorough propaganda campaign. The criminals (in my opinion) behind this really know how to manipulate search engines so it&#8217;s almost impossible to find anything negative about it. In addition, chat rooms are found and bogus success stories are posted, negative comments removed. What a clever and massive effort they have demonstrated. If they devoted all that effort for the good of mankind, we would all know their names. As it is, they must hide their identity. How do we know they are bogus? In all the history of mankind no one has ever produced a free energy machine that can be operated by an independent party. Never. Not one time. Only the so called inventors can ever demonstrate it in controlled conditions. Be real, what are the chances of you the reader finding one on the internet? One that you can easily build in your spare time and can be explained with elementary school level pseudo science? No really important discovery can be kept a secret for long. The technology for the atomic bomb was even published and available to the public (it&#8217;s been recalled since).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be so open minded that your brain falls out (not to mention your wallet as well).</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Krieg</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-240586</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Krieg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there ever is a free energy system that really works, it would be hard to find through the din of hoards of con men and lunatics pitching the same kinds of claims.
    I see widespread free energy scams having been ripping people off for about 100 years now.  The biggest crooks are people like Dennis Lee (his latest prosecution now by the FTC) who scams people out of 100&#039;s of thousands in dealerships or other kinds of investment in false technology.   All the way on the low end are scams like magniwork and fuelless power which operate a safe smaller cost per victim scam of selling kits that don&#039;t work.  It is hard to prosecute the smaller scam - their worst effect is wasting people&#039;s time trying to get a damned from the start kit working - of course if you complain it doesn&#039;t work, they have the audacity to call you too stupid to make it work when you were only stupid enough to trust them for plans for the impossible.

Eric Krieg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there ever is a free energy system that really works, it would be hard to find through the din of hoards of con men and lunatics pitching the same kinds of claims.<br />
    I see widespread free energy scams having been ripping people off for about 100 years now.  The biggest crooks are people like Dennis Lee (his latest prosecution now by the FTC) who scams people out of 100&#8217;s of thousands in dealerships or other kinds of investment in false technology.   All the way on the low end are scams like magniwork and fuelless power which operate a safe smaller cost per victim scam of selling kits that don&#8217;t work.  It is hard to prosecute the smaller scam &#8211; their worst effect is wasting people&#8217;s time trying to get a damned from the start kit working &#8211; of course if you complain it doesn&#8217;t work, they have the audacity to call you too stupid to make it work when you were only stupid enough to trust them for plans for the impossible.</p>
<p>Eric Krieg</p>
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		<title>By: C. Alexander Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-240112</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Alexander Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUESTION: Where are law enforcement agencies? The Internet has become a free-for-all for fraudsters and thieves, vast sums are being purloined daily in various ways, and worldwide, innocent people&#039;s lives disrupted and damaged. But no country has a coherent policy for dealing with this plague, and there are no broadly based international cooperative effort. What is to be done to change this situation? Because something has to be done. Things cannot be allowed to continue like this. I myself filed complaints with numerous American Federal and also state law enforcement agencies against a company operation as the &quot;Video Professor&quot; and have received no response and seen no action from any of them. A little bit of research revealed that there are thousands of complaints against the &quot;Video Professor,&quot; yet no action is being taken by police or prosecutors!! So I am in the process of hiring a law firm to launch a class action lawsuit against this company for steeling $600.oo from my credit card account. I was once a government official with responsibility for Consumer Protection, yet even with this background I was &quot;taken&quot; by these scam artists!! So what chance has the average lay person? Broadly speaking, folks have to go beyond blogging about the problems of Internet fraud and thievery. I suggest bringing organized pressure on law enforcement officials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUESTION: Where are law enforcement agencies? The Internet has become a free-for-all for fraudsters and thieves, vast sums are being purloined daily in various ways, and worldwide, innocent people&#8217;s lives disrupted and damaged. But no country has a coherent policy for dealing with this plague, and there are no broadly based international cooperative effort. What is to be done to change this situation? Because something has to be done. Things cannot be allowed to continue like this. I myself filed complaints with numerous American Federal and also state law enforcement agencies against a company operation as the &#8220;Video Professor&#8221; and have received no response and seen no action from any of them. A little bit of research revealed that there are thousands of complaints against the &#8220;Video Professor,&#8221; yet no action is being taken by police or prosecutors!! So I am in the process of hiring a law firm to launch a class action lawsuit against this company for steeling $600.oo from my credit card account. I was once a government official with responsibility for Consumer Protection, yet even with this background I was &#8220;taken&#8221; by these scam artists!! So what chance has the average lay person? Broadly speaking, folks have to go beyond blogging about the problems of Internet fraud and thievery. I suggest bringing organized pressure on law enforcement officials.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-239075</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the e-book Magnet4Energy sells is the same as that of Magniwork.
I did order but requested for refund (which they refund right away) as soon as I see that the guide is not really a step by step guide and you have to create some molds and fiberglass and that&#039;s too complicated for me to make, I thought as per their ads is I can use readily available parts from hardware store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the e-book Magnet4Energy sells is the same as that of Magniwork.<br />
I did order but requested for refund (which they refund right away) as soon as I see that the guide is not really a step by step guide and you have to create some molds and fiberglass and that&#8217;s too complicated for me to make, I thought as per their ads is I can use readily available parts from hardware store.</p>
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