by ALEXBENADY on OCTOBER 8, 2009 - 73 Comments in ENERGY
Stirling D Allan: “This is Fraud” Internet fraudsters are raking in thousands of dollars a day with an elaborate scam selling magnetic perpetual motion machines that are claimed to produce infinite free energy.
Since spring this year an operation called Magniwork has been selling a $50 DIY guide to building a perpetual motion device at home. On their web-site the fraudsters claim the materials are available in any local hardware store for less than $100. One estimate puts sales of the guide as high as 5,000 copies a month, making the scam worth up to $3m a year.
The claims for Magniwork are advanced via an extensive Google advertising campaign, and a network of blogs, web-sites and reviews endorsing the product. They are given further credibility by a clip of film from Sky News Australia about plans for a similar product made by a legitimate if optimistic research company called Lutec. Lutec patented its technology in 19 countries in 1999, but the product has still not seen the light of day. Off-Grid has discovered that the clip is over 8 years old.
Perpetual motion machine
Magniwork which describes its product as ‘a magnetic power generator’ claims to have invented a revolutionary off-grid power source that uses magnets to “power itself and create energy by itself, without requiring solar energy, heat, water, coal or any kind of resource.” The web-site promises the device will generate perpetual energy which will “fully power your home for free.”
However even the idea of such a device is dismissed by trained physicists. “The little explanation they give on their website makes no sense to me,” said Gunnar Pruessner, a lecturer in physics at Imperial College London. “For starters it breaks with all we know about quantum physics since Dirac, which says that we cannot tap into zero point fluctuations or virtual particles.”
Priceless IP
He observed that if the claims were true, they would mark the biggest advance in science ever. “It would bring a world-wide socio-economic revolution with incalculable political consequences. So you have to ask why are they scuzzing around selling their priceless IP (intellectual property) for a few dollars?”
Made in Macedonia
The site gives no way of contacting Magniwork -other than to order the guide. But its legal disclaimer reveals that despite the .com web address which suggests a US-based company, Magniwork is in fact located in Macedonia, a tiny republic on the northern border of Greece in Europe. “This Agreement shall all be governed and construed in accordance with the laws of Macedonia applicable to agreements made and to be performed in Macedonia,” it reads. It has similarly proved difficult to identify the individuals behind the scheme. But one researcher claims to have written to the site’s web-master who referred in his reply to a man simply called “Igor”, the manual’s publisher.
Kernel of truth
Angry customers admit that the guide does contain kernels of truth. “Some of the suggestions in the e-book can reduce your home power consumption. For example, checking for air leaks, have better home insulation, servicing your air-conditioning unit or heate etc,”wrote one. But is it essentially amateurish and misleading, they say. “The whole “document” is 57 pages long and looks like something a kid in high school put together. The final “generator” is basically a magnet that is 2″ high sitting on a turntable that is 4″ high! They claim that its output is 24.5 Watts! That is 1/100th of what my house uses when the AC is on. It wouldn’t put out enough power to light up a standard light bulb,“ wrote another angry blogger. Fraudulent
Alternative energy expert Sterling D. Allan founder of The New Energy Congress has examined Magniwork’s claims. “Most of the 50+ page manual contains energy conservation tips that are based on well-established principles,” he said. But he points out that plans for the device are freely available elsewhere, they are based on other people’s work and he claims to have tried to contact people offering testimonials, without success. “The wording on their site still gives the reader the idea that the plans will result in a working free energy device but that is not the case. Such representation is fraud,” he concluded.
Although highly implausible, the idea of somehow harvesting magnetic power has intrigued scientists for over a century. It was first suggested by pioneering physicist Nicola Tesla in the nineteenth century. Australian company Lutec is still trying to perfect such a device. And U.S based based Magnetic Power Inc, headed by Mark Goldes, has claimed to be on the verge of launching a ‘Magnetic Power Module’ for at least six years. There is no suggestion that either Lutec or MPI are part of the scam.
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73 comments
Thank you for posting information about this Magniwork scam and making clear that Magnetic Power Inc. (MPI) is not involved. In the past they did mention our work and when legal action was threatened they removed any mention of MPI.
MPI Magnetic Power Modules are now being developed by Chava Energy. When they are in production they will be marketed as MagGen(tm).
Those who do not believe magnetic systems can tap new sources of energy might enjoy the article titled: Perpetual Commotion, on the Chava website: http://chavaenergy.com
Potential automotive applications of MagGen, and another revolutionary energy development, are briefly described in the article: 5 Steps to Revive the Auto Industry and the Economy It can be found on the Aesop Institute website: http://www.aesopinstitute.org
They didn’t come up with the IP, they merely poked around the internet and grabbed something that looked nominally convincing. It’s piracy.
On our site, http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magniwork, we list 30 different virtual domains that have been used in Google AdWords campaigns promoting the product. In my AdSense account, I block all 30 of these so they don’t show up in my ad space.
Though I’ve reported this scam to Google, I’m guessing that those who have reviewed it don’t feel qualified to make a determination of fraud. They see what appears to be happy customers, they see a money back guarantee.
What they don’t see is that the large bulk of people buy the plans then don’t do anything with them because they’re too complicated.
I seriously doubt that there is anyone actually powering anything, let alone a home, using the Magniwork generator plans. They’re making that stuff up. It is fraud, plain and simple. I’ve not see one photo or video of a completed device. I’ve not seen any data from output. All I’ve seen is people claiming they are powering stuff, and I question their integrity if they don’t provide evidence to back their claim.
I purchased a $49 version of this program, because I saw it on a trusted site, then I found negatives on several accounts (pewsiki for one) I then wrote to the company requesting a refund, which happened several weeks later. The last note I received from this company follows:
Dear Sir,
I must’ve missed your previous e-mail, sorry about that, I assure you
that this is an honest company.
I have issued a refund on your order, it takes up to 2 working days for
the refund to be processed, so please be patient.
Kind Regards,
Vojdan Vrcakovski
I must confess the plans looked very appealing.
Lewis
This Magni-work seems to have changed their content
several times to avoid stepping on other peoples
legitimate legal claims, the only problem is, what
they now have probably no longer has any technical
merit. It’s difficult to level critisizem at something
that keeps changing. It definitely seems like a scam.
:S:MarkSCoffman
Ah too bad, I found way too many negative reviews on this stuff to buy this now.
Would love to see though an actual video made by those that failed. Who knows? After all magnetic energy is still hardly understood by us (other than the opposite poles attract and it can generate electricity if you move it in a coil etc etc) as far as I know.
It’s fraudsters like this that give a bad name to real companies selling viable alternative energy products like hydrogen generators. There are plenty crappy books in this genre as well, which makes our job much harder. Nevertheless, we actually respond to peoples questions and give warranties and tech support, showing we are a viable company, based in California. Our new line of HHO generators is twice as efficient as most out there and are due to be released in just a few short days…
Magniwork should be shut down if they cannot produce testimonies and real product proof. I think the FTC is getting ready to do this…
Bob
I noticed an ad for this product a few weeks ago on Sterling’s site, and subsequently purchased the 57 page brief. Yes, I paid the $49 credit card, and yes, I was excited to download the materials and build a model in my machine shop. When I reviewed the brief it was, as Mr. Allen has suggested, written so poorly that I doubt anyone can make enough sense of it to actually construct one. I am a PhD mechanical engineer, have an advanced machine shop and cad/cam software but cannot dicypher the plans well enough.
In my heart I believe that a combination of electromagnetic enegy and permanent magnet forces can, (and will someday), be combined to create some kind of over-unity, but this ain’t it. So, off to the Chava and Lutec sites I go…..
magnets 4 less seems scam too can you locate them so i can have attornry general look into it?
I think the e-book Magnet4Energy sells is the same as that of Magniwork.
I did order but requested for refund (which they refund right away) as soon as I see that the guide is not really a step by step guide and you have to create some molds and fiberglass and that’s too complicated for me to make, I thought as per their ads is I can use readily available parts from hardware store.
QUESTION: Where are law enforcement agencies? The Internet has become a free-for-all for fraudsters and thieves, vast sums are being purloined daily in various ways, and worldwide, innocent people’s lives disrupted and damaged. But no country has a coherent policy for dealing with this plague, and there are no broadly based international cooperative effort. What is to be done to change this situation? Because something has to be done. Things cannot be allowed to continue like this. I myself filed complaints with numerous American Federal and also state law enforcement agencies against a company operation as the “Video Professor” and have received no response and seen no action from any of them. A little bit of research revealed that there are thousands of complaints against the “Video Professor,” yet no action is being taken by police or prosecutors!! So I am in the process of hiring a law firm to launch a class action lawsuit against this company for steeling $600.oo from my credit card account. I was once a government official with responsibility for Consumer Protection, yet even with this background I was “taken” by these scam artists!! So what chance has the average lay person? Broadly speaking, folks have to go beyond blogging about the problems of Internet fraud and thievery. I suggest bringing organized pressure on law enforcement officials.
If there ever is a free energy system that really works, it would be hard to find through the din of hoards of con men and lunatics pitching the same kinds of claims.
I see widespread free energy scams having been ripping people off for about 100 years now. The biggest crooks are people like Dennis Lee (his latest prosecution now by the FTC) who scams people out of 100′s of thousands in dealerships or other kinds of investment in false technology. All the way on the low end are scams like magniwork and fuelless power which operate a safe smaller cost per victim scam of selling kits that don’t work. It is hard to prosecute the smaller scam – their worst effect is wasting people’s time trying to get a damned from the start kit working – of course if you complain it doesn’t work, they have the audacity to call you too stupid to make it work when you were only stupid enough to trust them for plans for the impossible.
Eric Krieg
Never in the history of the internet has anyone mounted a more thorough propaganda campaign. The criminals (in my opinion) behind this really know how to manipulate search engines so it’s almost impossible to find anything negative about it. In addition, chat rooms are found and bogus success stories are posted, negative comments removed. What a clever and massive effort they have demonstrated. If they devoted all that effort for the good of mankind, we would all know their names. As it is, they must hide their identity. How do we know they are bogus? In all the history of mankind no one has ever produced a free energy machine that can be operated by an independent party. Never. Not one time. Only the so called inventors can ever demonstrate it in controlled conditions. Be real, what are the chances of you the reader finding one on the internet? One that you can easily build in your spare time and can be explained with elementary school level pseudo science? No really important discovery can be kept a secret for long. The technology for the atomic bomb was even published and available to the public (it’s been recalled since).
Don’t be so open minded that your brain falls out (not to mention your wallet as well).
yes i have sent my money to them , cant get in touch with them
yes i have down loaded my scam of a 57 page SCAM is there any address being in the uk,
what a fool i was,
howie,
Sorry you lost you money. It took a lot of courage and honesty to post your experience. Perhaps it will warn others away.
Harvey
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT MAGNIWORK IS A SCAM SAVE YOUR MONEY AND CHECK IT OUT ON THE FREE POSTINGS OF THE BOGUS PLANS
BUT IF YOU REALLY INTERESTED LOOK UP TROY REED THIS GUY REALLY RATES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNbJ1aew-BQ&feature=related
Insidiously, this article itself — as of 6 Dec 2009 — has a prominent Google sidebar with what looks like two advertising items:
“Ads by Google
“Make a Magnetic Generator – To Create Free Electricity to Power Your Home, A Must Read, Get it Now – Electricity-Generator.net”
and:
“Magnetic Generator Plans – Use magnetic power to generate free electricity to power a home & more – URL REMOVED BY OFF-GRID EDITOR”
Each has a footer: “Affiliate of Magniwork”
In fact, they are identical links directing you to the:
“Magniworks Main Website. Just Link Below”
“URL REMOVED BY OFF-GRID EDITOR”
Is there no one who has actually made electricity from any device?
Jim,
Not one “over unity” device has ever made more energy then it took to run it – ever.
The good news:
Solar works.
Wind Energy Works.
Nuclear power Works.
Hydro Electric works
Tidal power works.
New (and proven) nuclear reactors can recycle and re-use over 90% of its own waste. This could be used long enough until we find something better. There’s enough nuclear fuel to last for centuries.
Note that all the workable solutions were developed by teams of physicists, scientists, and others working together for a common goal. Compare this to spending $50 on an internet scam so you can be the one to “save the world”. Kind of puts it into perspective doesn’t it?
Hi can someone send the plans of that “scam” to me. I am curious to look at them? thanks
Boyan
I complained to the Advertising Standards Authority when an advert for this ‘product’ appeared in the UK ‘Daily Mail’ on line.
The ‘company’ blamed ‘affiliate advertisers’ and have said the claim for ‘free electricity’ won’t be repeated. The ASA has upheld my complaint.
However, on receipt of the letter today I check on the Internet to find that the same absurd claim is being made everywhere by them. As it’s not a UK website the ASA can take no action I guess.
Google is in a position to do this. Why don’t they?
hi, there is a spelling error in the plan but i’m making it &i ‘ll let u guys know when i finish.
To anyone who did buy the Magniwork product, it is sold through ClickBank and they have a money back return policy for all their products so if you just contact them you should be able to get your money back.
It is too bad, when I first saw it I wanted to buy it too, it is unfortunate fraudsters like that make it more difficult for true scientist and engineers to get the investors that are needed to create these technologies so needed for our survival.
If you want to check out a cool concept and project which is not taking any large corporate sponsorship or donations (so no one can tell them what or how to run things) and is going to make available for free all they discover check out ConstructZero.org Really cool thing to do to give back. I am not associated with them I just love the concept and wanted to spread the word. we need more groups, companies like that. Enjoyu.
Why do people believe those claims of free energy? There is no such thing as free energy. If people are stupid enough to order a plan, they are ready for a lesson and 50 dollars is not an expensive lesson compared to what i paid the garage last week for not renewing the motoroil of my car. Still, fraud is wrong and should be prosecuted. It’s better to tell people they can save over 60% of their energybills if they wash their laundry low temperature or cold. If they throw away their electric waterheater and if they never iron their laundry again. Do your dirty dishes by hand instead of a powerconsuming electric dishwasher. These things really pays off.
If your not ready to do this, get an extra job to pay for your energybill.
[...] Limited Time Offer $49 Magnetic Energy Generator Magnetic Energy Generator Updated 3/13/10  Over the weekend I took some time & looked into the Magniwork Energy Generator Plans in greater detail.I apologize for not being more thorough last month when I 1st posted this artical but here is what I found. IT WILL NOT WORK TO POWER YOUR HOUSE or much of anything else for that matter! IT COULD WORK AS A NEAT LITTLE WEEK-END EXPERIMENT or high school science project. Go here to see a nearly identical copy of the Magnetic Energy Generator plans. JLG Labs I did think about pulling this post down altogether but decided against it. I had put a tremendous amount of time & energy into this article and it would be a shame to waste it. All of the information, links & observations I included in this post are completely valid and even though I never called it a scam or fraud I never endorsed it as anything more than a science experiment or  unproven concept either. The plan itself should be used as a detailed experiment that more than anything else should disprove the practically of the magnetic energy generator theory. However, The Magniwork Manual as a whole does contain some additional information on alternate energy sources & tips on saving energy. Consequently it may be worth the 50 bucks for the time it would save you if you where to look up this information. Prior to posting this I did a final search looking for legitimate articles about magnetic generators & Magniwork. This is the most direct accusation of fraudulent activity I have come across yet. It is fairly old so I don’t know how I missed it but click here Off-grid.net/. [...]
Look up the energy machine of Joseph Newman – Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum there is a 24 page result of the look up.
Specificly the banters between Eta C, gritmonger and garynolan where it is discussed in great detail about the NBS, Federal Court in Wash DC, Judge Jackson and Joseph Newmans machine.
The NBS had Joseph Newmans’ Generator that had to be taken the on a flat bed truck by Joseph Newman himself to NBS in Wash DC.
THEY WANTED TO DESTROY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY??????????????
That doesn’t make any sense.
Why wasn’t it mentioned in any news clips in the media???????????,
I have not searched the newspapers in DC for articles about the NBS and the generator.
I bet that if i did I probably would not see anything!
I believe, based on my own experiments with other controversial matters and research of the same for over 19 years, that it is a cover up allright.
A cover up by the NBS – National Burough of Standards.
I bet this will not be posted on this website because they probably only publish comments that support their views.
Watch and see.
I am going to alert my friends about this web site and tell them to look and see if this is posted.
I hold the opinion and proven at that by my own experience that new information about what can help us in any way should be honestly looked at and experimented with.
It sounds like all the posted comments are from people that did not try anything!!!!!!!! Build anything!!!!!!!!!!!! They don’t really know do they.
I havn’t tried anything for reasons other that skepticism which I will not go into right now.
To the operators of this so called FREE scam information.
Why don’t you SHOW us the proof that you are not an operation designed by the FBI, CIA, MI6, or the KGB.
I bet you won’t do that because you can’t.
Maybe we should be skeptical of you!!!!!!!
Does any body remember their high school thermodynamics? Its simple physics, you can not creat something from nothing. May be God, but not you!
I work as an online affiliate and I was about to promote this product but decided to check the legitimacy of this technology. After reading the posts on this site I’m definitely not going to even consider promoting what can only be called “junk.”
There are actually many affiliates promoting this scam and I bet many of them are unaware that this product doesn’t work.
In my opinion “Clickbank” the third party who handles the sale of this ebook should take a more aggressive stance on people who sell these products. Afterall the Clickbank image is also being tarnished by these scammers, but I guess greed and the pursuit of riches numbs the morals and principles of many people.
I got the ebook from a friend and actually built this. It does power my TV and computers in my Den with no problem. It won’t power the whole house or even half but, by making this bigger, their is no doubt in my mind that it will and can power my whole house for free. Please ignore the people here who probally own stock in the companies that power the world!
Has anybody built a magnetic generator that works.
I found this site: http://topmagneticgenerator.com that claim it has build a magnetic generator, and the description is so well written, but when I asked them for pictures and proof that it works no one got back to me on this matter… many people want to believe this, but the truth is that it can’t be done
If any one thinks this plausible and was dumb enough to pay for it kill your self right now.Your gullibility and ignorance is past on to your off spring and holds humanity back.
If the laws of physics no longer apply try jumping from a high cliff or breath under water.
Hi Nathan,
I was fool and have bought the magniwork plans for a magnetic generator through the website you said here http://topmagneticgenerator.com – once I looked at the book and instructions I asked for my money back… I finally got it back – People, you need to be careful with these magnet generator plans – there is nothing in it – if there was – some company would have make it commercial already
Thanks fellas, you just saved me £35. I was taken in for a little then…Glad I found this site !
Hi
I live in Ukraine where my wife and I run a small holding near the border with Romania.
As a small holder living in this neck of the woods, the biggest problem we’ve encountered has been in securing a consistent energy supply for our needs. The grid in these parts is not what it should be. We therefore suffer blackouts more frequently than most other regions. This can have a devastating effect on our poultry breeding program. So when I came across Magniworks on Click Bank, I was tempted to buy a copy of the manual. However, with limited resources to invest in new projects, I was obliged to carry out due diligence before making my purchase, and thank God I did.
Thanks to the review and comments on this site, I have decided not to purchase the Magniworks manual. I would sooner suffer the inconvenience of blackouts than lose money to a scam.
Thank you.
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THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT MAGNIWORK IS A SCAM SAVE YOUR MONEY AND CHECK IT OUT ON THE FREE POSTINGS OF THE BOGUS PLANS
BUT IF YOU REALLY INTERESTED LOOK UP TROY REED THIS GUY REALLY RATES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNbJ1aew-BQ&feature=related
Too bad this link was removed for “terms of use violation,” meanwhie the internet is awash with this fraud. Too bad, I would have liked to have seen them for myself, but I’m not surprised the whistle blowers are censored while the crooks are protected.
I was almost in to it! Thanks to all of you guys who had shared your thoughts and opinions about this so called “Magniworks”
Magniwork.com is the 15712:th largest site within .COM – which is quite a result. ClickBank review every product that they sell, and it is dissapointing that, even though it seems to be generating a ton of money, they allow it on their market place. What is difficult to understand is that with the ClickBank refund policy – how is it that anyone fails to ask for a refund. Must be the embarassment factor – eg people still believe that it works, but they just did not have the skills to build it correctly.
@Thomas…thats how most clickbank fraudsters work, they hope that you will get information overload and think that its your fault its not working. Although this particular product is a scam, i urge all readers not to dismiss magnetic generators, or free energy devices. there are working examples, do a search on youtube and you will find tons of videos documenting this stuff, some work, some dont, but its not all ‘scam’. cheers
I would like to know why Clickbank doesn’t do anything about this. They must be asked of a lot of refund for this product and I’ve never seen so much negative and angry comments about a product online. There have been loads of people who have complaint about this magniwork product. I myself am pretty pissed off. I’m affiliate marketer and very new to it. I was told by another affiliate company that is pretty big, to promote this product. They gave me a lot of info I needed and I paid good money for it. I started a website and thought it was a good product without ever buying it myself. Silly me to trust others to do these researches. I’ve spent money on trying to promote a product that is clearly a scam and rubbish. What I don’t understand is how popular this product is within Clickbank and how many sales there has been. The refund rate got to be a lot for this.
I will never again trust anyone but myself to do these researches. I just want to say to anyone who bought this, to get your refund at Clickbank, it is no problem at all.
Thomas
“ClickBank review every product that they sell, and it is dissapointing that, even though it seems to be generating a ton of money, they allow it on their market place.”
The clue is in the “generating a ton of money” bit. The fact is that ClickBank is promoting quite a number of schemes, which at best are unethical. They simply don’t care.
I approached them about it and they simply responded with instructions on how to find products to promote.
Use ClickBank with care, or avoid it altogether.
Anybody can advice us about ebm technology. As per as my understanding, they are selling licenses since 2001. We haven’t seen any power project yet. We heard about big manufacturing company has taken over the production. We still don’t know the real picture. They even don’t like to talk over the phone. Allen may have better knowledge. We like to see any updates. Thanks.
Can any one who has ordered these plans send me just to see what are they selling.
@gator
Can you please post a video of the device you build to youtube. I have messed with building this type of generators before and I have NEVER seen one that would spin by the magnet power alone. I understand that the power produced would be minimal, but I am more curious to see a machine actually spin continuously by magnet power alone.
Thanks
Honestly, I’ve read a lot about it and I have seen all the schemes they have as well. I’m not sure if you can call it a scam since yes their scheme is kinda out of this world thing for most people but its still offering the info needed to build the thing. Also, they do refund there product so it also shows that they stand behind it.
Sorry but I’ve just seen way to many people calling out scams on almost anything they stumble on the web. I’ve seen some very good stuff out there that are being called scams just because people aren’t satisfied with it since they can’t build it or work upon it.
C Al Brown – guess you sat on yr hands when u had an opp 2 do something – ppl r being screwed daily with bad science and bulls~~~ whats new
As all of You agreed this 57 page pdf is a dreamers view of physics for starters, It mostly contains tips to reduce energy wastage. The real construction part is with zero advanced physics. If this is real why they do not have a proper publication or a patent for this. Is any thing like this if true, which will clearly change the worlds present economy is sold at few dollars?
Infinity Turbine Scheme, watch out for this scam as well. Claims to have developed turbine for ORC. Just a fraud by Greg Giese.
Infinity Turbine build your own ORC. This is the latest scam run by Infinity Turbines. Greg Giese certainly is a conman.
Infinity Turbine build your own ORC, yes this is a scam that you pay to attend a seminar to build an ORC using the infinity turbine. Just a scam
hello:
I bought the plans from Magnets 4 energy, but I still have not been able to get the magnets through internet. I guess the only way to find out if this works is to try to build it. I saw a comment from gator that he built it. But it takes some effort to make the tools and parts. I am still very skeptical about it, I bought the plans for about $50 dollars (I think) with another friend, and he does not believe in it. If I ever see one running, I will place a new comment, but I doubt it, since if so, they would be selling it commercially already.
I wrote a review about magnet generator plans. they’re all crap. forget about never paying your electricity bill again. better save more energy to lower your bill and you will do our planet earth a favor, too.
I don’t think someone really build a magnetic power generator
In any case – the closest info I could found to build magnet generator was
this site: http://www.travelgood.com – can someone help here
and let me know if this is for real?
Ah, folks, did you ever ask yourself the simple question — how does a sole inventor come up with this endless power source, as opposed to research universities around the world and R&D units of huge, billion-dollar companies?
The answer, simply, is that this is a scam. Not only does the genesis of this product strain credulity, it’s even more improbable that giant corporations would still be using fossil fuels to generate power if this device actually works!
Think, folks, think. It costs nothing to do so, and thinking and questioning may just save you quite a bit of money throughout your life.
Ahh…to bad you cannot do your homework properly and throughly investigate this matter. If you had of done your research properly, you would know that the 57 page e-book is a fraud that has been perpertrated to give the company and the product a bad name; with the genuine e-book from magniwork being 143 pages in length.
Stirling D Allan: “I am a foolâ€
and
Alexbenady: “I should be ashamed for putting out such a shoddy article containing misinformation and not thouroughly researching the material first”
Thanks for confirming my suspicions about the Magniwork scenario. As a teacher of college Physics, I, and probably most folks are aware that no has or ever will invent a perpetual motion machine. The presence of so many “reviewing” web sites which also provide links to the reviewed product should be a tipoff to potential fraud, anyway. And why would a credible reviewer violate the principles of unbiased and impartial reporting? They don’t.
The continually growing amount and variety of sleaze in the market place is mind blowing. I wonder where our species would and could be if the thieves and liars of the world channelled that energy constructively.
………..Nah!!!!!
I searched that site; nice one, but nothing came up about generators of any but the standard types. Can you offer more specifics about what you saw?
PS; The marketing for “Gas4Free” seems to be very similar in character to that of the MagniWork.
I am 63 and many years ago i watched a prog on BBC called Tomorrows world . Two experiments stuck in my mind . A pump that circulated used engine oil and cleaned it in the process and a man holding a wand with what looked like recording tape on it like a cheerleaders pompom, when this was shaken it generated an electrical current enough to power a small toy electric train. I have seen nothing of this amateur technology since. Did big business get scared and buy them out.
I was able to get my money back. It took a couple of weeks. I received an email from them that was very similar to Comment Number 3 by Lewis Jenkins.
I recently found another site that offers several plans such as a fuelless engine (uses a battery to run and is credited with Over Unity to run a house if you up size it from their plans, The plans say you can build a unit from 1-350 hp) The Price is $70. I found a site to down load it for free. The plans seem to be very informative but a lot of the information is beyond me. The original site is
http://www.fuellesspower.com/4_EngineFREE.htm
Anyone read this set of plans or tried to build them?
OMG!!! We need to get these “scamers”, Any body recall what common sense is? Yeah let’s involve lawyers so they can make a few bucks off of this issue also.
Any person who has the education, knowledge skills and recources to attempt and believe he
will sucessfully achieve building machines like these. Won’t need to buy a $50.00 “set of plans” to construct it. Do you really think these are blueprints for fifty bucks?
Hey I got a bridge I’m trying to unload. Cheap!
If you spent more of your time educating yourselves ,and just look at what has been posted here and the time to do it, all over fifty bucks? that’s not even a half a tank of gas. Wow! now that’s a scam.
The scamers are the ones who have our government bail out multi-billion dollar companies after screwing you out of alot more than fifty bucks.
Talk about wasting energy!
And to be sure to not discredit the genius of inventive minds and what really showed me the “validity” (sarcasm intended) of all this rable rousing is there isn’t anybody posting that they built a device like this or anything similar and can prove that it will never work. Oh my ,this looks to hard to do!
Are you also the same people that bought “Sea Monkeys” buy mail order out of the back of comic books? Right next to the x-ray glasses. Any body here in the market for cases of dehydrated water? Why isn’t there any posts about your own DYI off the grid experiences? Good Grief ! I’m outta here and won’t be back.
Think first then get smart it really doesn’t hurt.
Can somebody just explain in simple words. Is magniwork a scam or not?
Here it is, in simple words, they are charging a lot of money for info you can find free on line, do a Google search and look on YouTube, you’ll find plenty of FREE info about this.
Wretha
Here’s a link you may find interesting: http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/
For those who don’t believe in perpetual motion you may want to “look up” and behold the universe which seems to be in perpetual motion and delivering it’s energy freely to us: Solar radiation being one example. I have no doubt there are scams out there but try to keep an open mind…we haven’t discovered everything.
Howard Johnson received a patent by demonstrating a working model.
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Paid $58.80 for this ebook but was unable to download/print – unable to contact this website (my emails to the only contact that I can see are being returned as failed to deliver). Any suggestions as to how I am able to obtain a refund (payment was made through Safecart)?
Thanks for finally talking about > Magniwork Energy internet scam | Living Off the Grid: Free Yourself < Loved it!
Anybody got any further information or experience on Infinity Turbine? Please advice. Thanks
Magniwork IS a scam – hope this is clear for the reader above.
But so are about 40 other consumer energy solutions – too many to list here. The best way o find the lists are to Google “energy scams’ – the power factor scam directory in the #1 result – Google “free energy scams” – “renewable energy scams” for their directories.
The one that is most up setting is called Power4Patriots (a copy of Power4Home) where there is enough truth for them to avoid litigation – although everything they offer is freely available on the Internet.
http://open4energy.com/forum/home-energy-saving-scams/power4patriots-scam-review
Please, please do not give your money to these scams!
HI, in that world of illusions, what Forces keeping Extraterrestrials to appear in everyday life, are that same for so called free energy devices, to work in public….be patient, for one day of Truth….
any device which would threaten the global economy which is reliant on oil would be rubbished and disappear before it ever got publicly released. energy companies would not want to use it as who would pay for something they can get free??? not rocket science is it.
Cheers for the stellar articles. I wish much more web sites
like this could be discovered in the big g. All I am coming across lately is lousy youtube movies
and exceptionally few informative articles and websites.
Looks like the big g is all about the bucks now; such a waste.
I believe I met the clowns that are offerring this manual about 8 years ago. I was contacted by a guy in a wheel chair and a Russian who were very convincing about a perpetual magnetic generator. The reason they contacted me was to put together a group of investors to finance their project. I met them at the wheel chairs Apt. once I saw the condition of the Apt. and heard the half ass presentation from the Russian I knew3 it waqs a dead end.
Good news, I have just invented a car with not engine that runs about 20 mpg. I just completed a 1.5 mile run with the car. I only have one problem that I am working on now and that is getting it to run the 1.5 miles back up the hill.
If you finished high school you would remember the class on thermodynamics? Its simple physics, you can not creat something from nothing as we have what is called friction (look it up).
Magniwork and Fuelless are scams. There are many of us using actual science to help the planet, but it’s not an easy process. Over 20 years of daily work on promising devices. I have only seen overunity twice in that period of time. 136 percent measurement was the best I have seen. It did not violate the second law of thermodynamics (Entropy) because of more than one input source. But these machines would be the size of a car, and would cost about as much to build in order to power a normal size house. Solar, wind and water power are still the only sure thing. Photovoltaics are less than 1 dollar per watt as of this message, so there is no longer a reason to not use it.
Thanks for sharing your info. I truly appreciate your
efforts and I am waiting for your next write ups thank you once again.
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