Comments on: I sell “poor quality” Magniworks guides http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/07/i-sell-poor-quality-magniworks-guides/ renewable energy,survival,save money,self build,Green homes,Solar power, cheap power, 12 volt, Solar panels, Wind power, peak oil, Batteries, Inverter, Generator, Rainwater harvesting, survivalist, prepper, self-sufficient, vans, yurts, yachts, RVs Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:54:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Amy Suarez http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/07/i-sell-poor-quality-magniworks-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-238941 Amy Suarez Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:36:54 +0000 http://www.off-grid.net/?p=4105#comment-238941 Yes I appreciate you talking to us about this. Thank you. Many wouldnt have. But despite the reservations you express on your site about Magniwork, I think you are wrong to be selling this product because quite simply it is misleading. It does not do what it claims to. You seem to be interested in ethical products and I imagine you are in business for the long haul. I am suprised that you continue to blot your reputation in this way. regards Alex Benady Yes I appreciate you talking to us about this. Thank you. Many wouldnt have. But despite the reservations you express on your site about Magniwork, I think you are wrong to be selling this product because quite simply it is misleading. It does not do what it claims to. You seem to be interested in ethical products and I imagine you are in business for the long haul. I am suprised that you continue to blot your reputation in this way.

regards

Alex Benady

]]> By: David Venaleck http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/07/i-sell-poor-quality-magniworks-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-238894 David Venaleck Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:49:48 +0000 http://www.off-grid.net/?p=4105#comment-238894 This is my email to Alex: Alex, Thanks for you comments. Yes I am an affiliate of Magniwork. Of course you are entitled to say and think what you want; but as a journalist shouldn't you be objective before you publish? Let me help you. I agree with you IF Magniwork was promoting perpetual motion, over unity and something for nothing, that would be a scam. There is a part of the world population always looking for something for nothing and when they find something that looks like something for nothing they jump on it. Because this population views this science as something for nothing it does not mean the science is claiming something for nothing. Let me give you a few examples. A solar panel gathers energy for free. The source is the sun. It will not do this for ever. It is not perpetual. For your lifespan the solar panel is capable of "producing" (gathering) energy for your entire life. Does it make a difference to you that, it is not perpetual? Interesting lesson on perspective. Magnets opposite poles attract. Move a strong magnet towards another's opposite pole and they will snap together. What is the force that moved them? Is this force perpetual? Can this force be used over and over again to do work? Before we in the scientific world fully understand magnetism, we will make false calms about it because we do not have a choice. We just don't know better. It's a mystery and it is human nature to apply reason, even though the reason may be faulty. False claims should not prevent us from using magnetisms force for work. Wouldn't you agree? Magniwork (or I as an affiliate) is not promoting perpetual motion in my opinion. They have implemented instructions to build a scientific experiment in magnetism. I'm sure you have investigated all the related material and know that this magnetic motor design has been around for over 25 years. Because the implemented design will "produce" (gather) power from a seemingly absent force, it looks like something for nothing; but is it really? I challenge you to present the dilemma of something for nothing and perpetual in an objective way. This is my email to Alex:

Alex,

Thanks for you comments. Yes I am an affiliate of Magniwork. Of course you are entitled to say and think what you want; but as a journalist shouldn’t you be objective before you publish?

Let me help you. I agree with you IF Magniwork was promoting perpetual motion, over unity and something for nothing, that would be a scam. There is a part of the world population always looking for something for nothing and when they find something that looks like something for nothing they jump on it. Because this population views this science as something for nothing it does not mean the science is claiming something for nothing. Let me give you a few examples.

A solar panel gathers energy for free. The source is the sun. It will not do this for ever. It is not perpetual. For your lifespan the solar panel is capable of “producing” (gathering) energy for your entire life. Does it make a difference to you that, it is not perpetual? Interesting lesson on perspective.

Magnets opposite poles attract. Move a strong magnet towards another’s opposite pole and they will snap together. What is the force that moved them? Is this force perpetual? Can this force be used over and over again to do work? Before we in the scientific world fully understand magnetism, we will make false calms about it because we do not have a choice. We just don’t know better. It’s a mystery and it is human nature to apply reason, even though the reason may be faulty. False claims should not prevent us from using magnetisms force for work. Wouldn’t you agree?

Magniwork (or I as an affiliate) is not promoting perpetual motion in my opinion. They have implemented instructions to build a scientific experiment in magnetism. I’m sure you have investigated all the related material and know that this magnetic motor design has been around for over 25 years. Because the implemented design will “produce” (gather) power from a seemingly absent force, it looks like something for nothing; but is it really?

I challenge you to present the dilemma of something for nothing and perpetual in an objective way.

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