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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-320383</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great book...Where are the next chapters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great book&#8230;Where are the next chapters?</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-239457</link>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frightening  oh my god!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frightening  oh my god!!</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-230980</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished the 4th chapter for the second time. I saw one mistake but I guess someone else told you about it because today it was fixed. 

It really is true that the victors write the history books. I&#039;m finding out some things about the South and southern living before and after the war that are not mentioned in any mainstream history books or encyclopedias. And the facts about Lincoln were certainly never taught in public school. He really was a despicable man. Much to think about as I continue to get myself out of debt. I&#039;m almost there!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished the 4th chapter for the second time. I saw one mistake but I guess someone else told you about it because today it was fixed. </p>
<p>It really is true that the victors write the history books. I&#8217;m finding out some things about the South and southern living before and after the war that are not mentioned in any mainstream history books or encyclopedias. And the facts about Lincoln were certainly never taught in public school. He really was a despicable man. Much to think about as I continue to get myself out of debt. I&#8217;m almost there!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-230960</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This e-book has been a great read for me so far. I like the challenge of seeing most &quot;off-grid&quot; situations as really just being &quot;my-grid&quot;, and that to be totally free from the non-viability of modern living you must move toward being &quot;no-grid&quot;. The historical examples really give context and perspective to the current mode of living. &quot;What has been, shall be again&quot;... This is very helpful and needful writing. Thanks to Nick for posting it, and to Michael for writing it! Looking forward to the rest with much anticipation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This e-book has been a great read for me so far. I like the challenge of seeing most &#8220;off-grid&#8221; situations as really just being &#8220;my-grid&#8221;, and that to be totally free from the non-viability of modern living you must move toward being &#8220;no-grid&#8221;. The historical examples really give context and perspective to the current mode of living. &#8220;What has been, shall be again&#8221;&#8230; This is very helpful and needful writing. Thanks to Nick for posting it, and to Michael for writing it! Looking forward to the rest with much anticipation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-230959</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very critical information that needs to be addressed by people. So many are unaware off the potential for disaster that is looming overhead. I am referring to the JIT system. May the Lord lead us out of this bondage.

Thanks,
Kelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very critical information that needs to be addressed by people. So many are unaware off the potential for disaster that is looming overhead. I am referring to the JIT system. May the Lord lead us out of this bondage.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Kelly</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-230955</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, 

Thank you for helping to get this information out to the world. You&#039;ve got a lot of information and resources on this website and it will take me a long time to peruse it all. Thanks Michael for telling me about it. And thanks for the free survival lessons Michael. This book is starting out very strong. I look forward to the subsequent chapters. I don&#039;t think you can separate the theology from the Off Off-Grid-ness. The only way you will be successful is to separate from the need to use electricity at all (even if it is self generated).And that is going to require complete reliance on God and his provision. This website will be a tremendous help in transitioning away from the normal way of life, but I think you are taking it even a step further with the ideas in your book and other writings. Keep &#039;em coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, </p>
<p>Thank you for helping to get this information out to the world. You&#8217;ve got a lot of information and resources on this website and it will take me a long time to peruse it all. Thanks Michael for telling me about it. And thanks for the free survival lessons Michael. This book is starting out very strong. I look forward to the subsequent chapters. I don&#8217;t think you can separate the theology from the Off Off-Grid-ness. The only way you will be successful is to separate from the need to use electricity at all (even if it is self generated).And that is going to require complete reliance on God and his provision. This website will be a tremendous help in transitioning away from the normal way of life, but I think you are taking it even a step further with the ideas in your book and other writings. Keep &#8216;em coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Nick, for publishing Michael&#039;s book on your site.  We  think it is fantastic that it is going to reach such a great number of people.  I agree with what several have stated in other comments, there is a lot to digest, but don&#039;t let that stop you from reading it and it may take reading each chapter more than 1 time to understand and digest it all.  Thanks again Michael for all that you do.  

Sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Nick, for publishing Michael&#8217;s book on your site.  We  think it is fantastic that it is going to reach such a great number of people.  I agree with what several have stated in other comments, there is a lot to digest, but don&#8217;t let that stop you from reading it and it may take reading each chapter more than 1 time to understand and digest it all.  Thanks again Michael for all that you do.  </p>
<p>Sue</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to John Clark&#039;s question about the distinction between off-grid and off off-grid, it is delineated in Chapter One: 


&quot;By “Off Off-Grid” we mean that we have not just taken a single symbolic step away from the industrial/urban system by creating our own grid system with which to replace it.&quot;

If you read Chapter One, Bunker expands on this distinction. I hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to John Clark&#8217;s question about the distinction between off-grid and off off-grid, it is delineated in Chapter One: </p>
<p>&#8220;By “Off Off-Grid” we mean that we have not just taken a single symbolic step away from the industrial/urban system by creating our own grid system with which to replace it.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you read Chapter One, Bunker expands on this distinction. I hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: William Braley</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-230904</link>
		<dc:creator>William Braley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Michael.  

There is a lot of meat here to be digested.  I really appreciate the background as to why as a Christian to separate from the world and why.  Keep on doin&#039; what you&#039;re doin&#039;

William</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Michael.  </p>
<p>There is a lot of meat here to be digested.  I really appreciate the background as to why as a Christian to separate from the world and why.  Keep on doin&#8217; what you&#8217;re doin&#8217;</p>
<p>William</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Tolbert</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-230903</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Tolbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

Thank you for sending out on your e-mail the Introduction and all the Chapters 1, 2, 3,Off-Off-grid by Michael Bunker,
I would encourage all to read this book even if you hate to take the time to read, it will be worth your time and effort.

Pat T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>Thank you for sending out on your e-mail the Introduction and all the Chapters 1, 2, 3,Off-Off-grid by Michael Bunker,<br />
I would encourage all to read this book even if you hate to take the time to read, it will be worth your time and effort.</p>
<p>Pat T</p>
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		<title>By: DavidS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History is such a great teacher of important things, and sadly seems to be so much ignored by many people today.  I believe records of history have been graciously granted us by God partially for that very reason -- so we can learn from them.  The introduction to Mr. Bunker&#039;s new book contains a brief but critical history lesson which reveals stark similarities between older times and much of the world today, including the end results of the life-styles and world views of those from the past.  This information is foundational for topics that affect everyone:  how people live their lives and what motivates them. 

Thanks to Mr. Rosen and Off-Grid.net for publishing Mr. Bunker&#039;s essay.

-- David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History is such a great teacher of important things, and sadly seems to be so much ignored by many people today.  I believe records of history have been graciously granted us by God partially for that very reason &#8212; so we can learn from them.  The introduction to Mr. Bunker&#8217;s new book contains a brief but critical history lesson which reveals stark similarities between older times and much of the world today, including the end results of the life-styles and world views of those from the past.  This information is foundational for topics that affect everyone:  how people live their lives and what motivates them. </p>
<p>Thanks to Mr. Rosen and Off-Grid.net for publishing Mr. Bunker&#8217;s essay.</p>
<p>&#8211; David</p>
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		<title>By: Renée M</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-230894</link>
		<dc:creator>Renée M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading about the &#039;WHY&#039; off-grid livng is very beneficial, and has allowed me to formulate answers to those who would ask questions about why one should want to work toward the lifestyle.  Funny, cliché, but true, ~ freedom is never actually &#039;free&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading about the &#8216;WHY&#8217; off-grid livng is very beneficial, and has allowed me to formulate answers to those who would ask questions about why one should want to work toward the lifestyle.  Funny, cliché, but true, ~ freedom is never actually &#8216;free&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-230893</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Thank you so much for the expanded explanations of Rome and its urban/city culture, its complexity and its ultimate demise.  Also for the definition of terms/words in Chapter 2, and the explanation as to why and how we need to &quot;act&quot; on our beliefs/knowledge in chapter 3 before the inevitable crash, as God directs and leads; to avoid the calamity of unsustainability/potential death due to unpreparedness and a change of lifestyle.  Thank you for your reflections on your grandmothers lifestyle and the &quot;colonizing of the minds&quot; that has taken place in the last 100 years especially.  Amen to all of that truth.  Whereas, food growth, harvesting/butchering, preservation of all, plus weaving fabric, sewing garments, use of such things as hand washboards to wash the few handmade garments we had, wood cook and heating stoves, hand milking of cows, using horses to plow, pull hay up into the haymow, etc. etc. were all still a part of my parents lives&#039; and even my own, until the late 1950&#039;s, early 60&#039;a; much quickly became more industrialized even on our family farm after that.  Tractors replaced horses for fieldwork, Surge milkers and electricity replaced hand milking, a bulktank replaced the cement watertrough and milkcans, etc. etc.  Dad serving in WW2 and it&#039;s &quot;benefits&quot; program for young servicemen to become farmers, had it&#039;s positive influence to a degree, as at least I was farm raised and saw some of the older, true paths; but it also had as you&#039;ve shared the industrial revolution underneath it and it&#039;s influence to no longer &quot;be poor&quot;.  Praise God for the desires of my heart being to return to the land and a much simpler life.  

Praise God for persons like yourself and all there for the positive influence to keep moving in that direction.  Thank you so much for the intro. through chapter 2 thus far.  Will read chapter 3 again later and comment.  

Thank you Nick for being willing to post Michaels chapters of his book on your website.  I pray you and all there will be richly rewarded with sufficient wisdom and knowledge through all you&#039;re doing, to live as independently as possible from &quot;the world&quot; in each of your lives.  Looking forward to becoming more familiar with your site overall, and reading what you&#039;re sharing.  With limited computor knowledge, navigating has been challenging so far, but perseverance pays off!

Thanks again to you, Michael and to Nick.

Beth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for the expanded explanations of Rome and its urban/city culture, its complexity and its ultimate demise.  Also for the definition of terms/words in Chapter 2, and the explanation as to why and how we need to &#8220;act&#8221; on our beliefs/knowledge in chapter 3 before the inevitable crash, as God directs and leads; to avoid the calamity of unsustainability/potential death due to unpreparedness and a change of lifestyle.  Thank you for your reflections on your grandmothers lifestyle and the &#8220;colonizing of the minds&#8221; that has taken place in the last 100 years especially.  Amen to all of that truth.  Whereas, food growth, harvesting/butchering, preservation of all, plus weaving fabric, sewing garments, use of such things as hand washboards to wash the few handmade garments we had, wood cook and heating stoves, hand milking of cows, using horses to plow, pull hay up into the haymow, etc. etc. were all still a part of my parents lives&#8217; and even my own, until the late 1950&#8242;s, early 60&#8242;a; much quickly became more industrialized even on our family farm after that.  Tractors replaced horses for fieldwork, Surge milkers and electricity replaced hand milking, a bulktank replaced the cement watertrough and milkcans, etc. etc.  Dad serving in WW2 and it&#8217;s &#8220;benefits&#8221; program for young servicemen to become farmers, had it&#8217;s positive influence to a degree, as at least I was farm raised and saw some of the older, true paths; but it also had as you&#8217;ve shared the industrial revolution underneath it and it&#8217;s influence to no longer &#8220;be poor&#8221;.  Praise God for the desires of my heart being to return to the land and a much simpler life.  </p>
<p>Praise God for persons like yourself and all there for the positive influence to keep moving in that direction.  Thank you so much for the intro. through chapter 2 thus far.  Will read chapter 3 again later and comment.  </p>
<p>Thank you Nick for being willing to post Michaels chapters of his book on your website.  I pray you and all there will be richly rewarded with sufficient wisdom and knowledge through all you&#8217;re doing, to live as independently as possible from &#8220;the world&#8221; in each of your lives.  Looking forward to becoming more familiar with your site overall, and reading what you&#8217;re sharing.  With limited computor knowledge, navigating has been challenging so far, but perseverance pays off!</p>
<p>Thanks again to you, Michael and to Nick.</p>
<p>Beth</p>
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		<title>By: John Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the title is throwing me, Surviving Off Off-Grid, shouldn&#039;t it say Surviving Off-Grid? Maybe it is just me and the government schooling I am a product of.

I forwarded the Introduction to six individuals including a few family members. Should be interesting to see if any comment to me or to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the title is throwing me, Surviving Off Off-Grid, shouldn&#8217;t it say Surviving Off-Grid? Maybe it is just me and the government schooling I am a product of.</p>
<p>I forwarded the Introduction to six individuals including a few family members. Should be interesting to see if any comment to me or to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.off-grid.net/2009/07/21/surviving-off-off-grid/comment-page-1/#comment-230884</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Todd - We just uploaded two more chapters, and from now on we will generally update every thursday starting on 30th July</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Todd &#8211; We just uploaded two more chapters, and from now on we will generally update every thursday starting on 30th July</p>
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