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		<title>By: Environmental Capital - WSJ.com : Green Dream: A N.J. School Attempts a Clean Slate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Environmental Capital - WSJ.com : Green Dream: A N.J. School Attempts a Clean Slate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For several years, architects and designers have been working on developing new methods and standards for ?building green.? The choices pursued to this effect often depend on the ultimate goal of a building. Should it be carbon neutral, energy neutral, or low-impact on the water systems? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For several years, architects and designers have been working on developing new methods and standards for ?building green.? The choices pursued to this effect often depend on the ultimate goal of a building. Should it be carbon neutral, energy neutral, or low-impact on the water systems? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ZEUGS: Gores Haus, Hilfe für Soldaten und Bush gegen die Todesstrafe &#171; USA Erklärt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZEUGS: Gores Haus, Hilfe für Soldaten und Bush gegen die Todesstrafe &#171; USA Erklärt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zu Häusern und Energie: Der interessierte Leser wird vielleicht irgendwann eine Spam-E-Mail bekommen haben, in der behauptet wird, Al Gores Haus sei eine Energie-Hölle und die Ranch von George W. Bush ein Öko-Paradis, ausgerechnet. Das ist nicht völlig falsch. Amerikanische Grüne räumen zähneknirschend ein:  George [W.] Bush’s policies on just about everything to do with the environment are wrong-headed and destructive, but you cannot say the same for his ranch in Crawford, Texas. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Off The Grid w/ Survivorman Les Stroud &#171; GET DIRTY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Off The Grid w/ Survivorman Les Stroud &#171; GET DIRTY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Off The Grid w/ Survivorman Les&nbsp;Stroud    I recently stumbled upon Off The Grid, Les Stroud&#8217;s 90 minute special from November about a year he spent with his family struggling to set up a life off-the-grid in Ontario.  Stroud &#8211; musician, film-maker, and survivalist extraordinaire &#8211; is the star of the highly entertaining Science Channel show, Survivorman, in which he proves himself TV&#8217;s best survivalist.  Sorry, Bear.  The video probably won&#8217;t last long on Google Vid since it&#8217;s up there illegally, so watch it while it&#8217;s hot if you&#8217;re interested.  And if you think off-the-grid living is only for hippies and whackos, well, tell that to President W. and his old friend from the Rangers, Richard Rainwater.  (As far as the reasoning behind Crawford being off-grid is concerned, that&#8217;s another subject entirely.)  And now, here&#8217;s Les:  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SAY CHEESE &#124; Little Homestead in the City</title>
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		<dc:creator>SAY CHEESE &#124; Little Homestead in the City</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] President Bush’s Texas Ranch Is Off-Grid, Eco-Friendly {OffGrid.net} Amazingly, given his oil industry links, Bush’s ranch is off-grid, boasting a range of eco-features including geothermal heating and cooling, that would make Leonardo di Caprio proud. The passive-solar house is positioned to absorb winter sunlight, warming the interior walkways and walls. Does his inside knowledge lead him to suspect that he will need it to survive a downturn very soon?“Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into purifying tanks underground — one tank for water from showers and bathroom sinks, which is so-called “gray water,” and one tank for “black water” from the kitchen sink and toilets. The purified water is funneled to the cistern with the rainwater. It is used to irrigate flower gardens, newly planted trees and a larger flower and herb garden behind the two-bedroom guesthouse. Water for the house comes from a well. The Bushes installed a geothermal heating and cooling system, which uses about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and air-conditioning systems consume. Several holes were drilled 300 feet deep, where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees.” Even portions of the home are made from waste materials from a local quarry! read full article [...]</p>
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		<title>By: renewableenergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>renewableenergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selling Renewable Energy (Solar Etc.) Without Incentives<br />
In short, we need to market solar as an investment that will save money while you own it and return most or all of your investment when you sell the building it&#8217;s sitting on.</p>
<p>Chances are, as natural gas and oil prices go up, there will be a corresponding jump in your monthly electricity bill. So, instead of promoting a solar power system based on today&#8217;s savings in electricity, we need to have easily understandable projections on what the savings will be over the life of a system. These numbers need to reflect what&#8217;s really happening to the cost of energy!<br />
Here are some ideas I&#8217;d like to share. First, we need to find a way to make renewable energy economically competitive without the tax incentives. We do this by answering the question: &#8220;What is the opportunity cost of not using solar to decrease your energy bill?&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something interesting I&#8217;ve found. There&#8217;s a direct correlation among electrical rates, the cost of air conditioning a building, the heat index and the amount of sunshine on any given day. In other words, on the hottest, sunniest days, we use more electricity that costs more per kilowatt. So, why do we continue to promote average hours of solar production, when in fact (at least down here in California), we produce far more solar power per day during the heat of the summer when energy costs are highest, than we do in our temperate winter months when energy costs are lowest. A sound marketing approach would be to evaluate solar energy in &#8220;dollars&#8221; of production per year instead of in kilowatts. I&#8217;m sure there are some smart people out there who can match kilowatts of solar production on any given day of the year to what the rates will be (based on the projected costs of electricity).<br />
Secondly, we should stop trying to sell a solar package as a &#8220;cost.&#8221; In real estate, there is a principle that says anything affixed to real estate becomes an integral part of the real estate. Once a solar package is installed, it immediately increases the value of a property. So how can you predict how much more a building will be worth in 5-10 years with a package as opposed to without one? In the real estate appraisal business, there are three approaches to appraising a property. The market approach (what are comparable properties selling for), the reproduction cost (the cost of creating an identical building at current construction and material prices) and the actual original cost adjusted for inflation. In all three methods, there&#8217;s a strong case that a system installed today will make the building worth more today and in future years.<br />
We need some realistic numbers to predict how much more a property will be worth in the years following installation. I believe that if you sell a building 5-10 years after installing solar, you should recoup all of your investment in the system plus an added bonus. If the rumors are true, a residential system (using the market approach) adds $20 of value to a home for every $1 it saves on the electric bill.<br />
For commercial appraisals, you would divide the income (savings) by a cap rate (which was about 9% at last report). A system that saves $2000 a year then would be worth $40,000 on a home or $25,000 on a business. But if the cost of electricity goes up (if that is remotely possible), then wouldn&#8217;t the value of the solar power system increase as well? In reality, we are not selling something that costs — we are actually offering a financial investment that grows comparably with other forms of energy.<br />
In short, we need to market solar as an investment that will save money while you own it and return most or all of your investment when you sell the building it&#8217;s sitting on. In commercial real estate, they use a &#8220;Cash Flow Analysis&#8221; form as the tool to evaluate a building&#8217;s value using the income approach. We need a similar tool for putting a value on solar. If solar makes sense with this approach, then just think of how much better the systems look when you add the tax advantages!<br />
This approach also applies to the cost of Energy efficiency implementation.<br />
Reducing operational costs increases the value of the business and or property.<br />
Compiled by Jay Draiman, Energy analyst<br />
12/1/2007</p>
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		<title>By: www.ampoff.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Do as I say, not as I do.</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.ampoff.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Do as I say, not as I do.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How about a &#8220;lowly&#8221; 4000 square foot house that uses geothermal heat pumps to heat and cool the house which uses 75% less electricity to heat/cool.  Collects rainwater and recycles waste water for irrigation.  Uses plants that are native to the climate that need less water.  That sort of thing.  It is a start right?  Heck, maybe something like THIS HOUSE. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: borghese</title>
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		<dc:creator>borghese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. Too bad he doesn&#039;t preach what he practices !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. Too bad he doesn&#8217;t preach what he practices !</p>
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		<title>By: George W. Bush, environmentalist &#124; Urban Onramps</title>
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		<dc:creator>George W. Bush, environmentalist &#124; Urban Onramps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 03:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] n Gore&#8217;s &#8211; and the article that (apparently) started the latest round of fuss: Meanwhile, back at the ranch Share This 	 Posted in Urban Onramps 	 	        		  	    Lea [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] n Gore&#8217;s &#8211; and the article that (apparently) started the latest round of fuss: Meanwhile, back at the ranch Share This 	 Posted in Urban Onramps 	 	        		  	    Lea [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gore Responds To Drudge?s Latest Hysterics - Page 5 - Debate Politics Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gore Responds To Drudge?s Latest Hysterics - Page 5 - Debate Politics Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his claim?    ? Meanwhile, back at the ranchSolar panels, wind turbines, renewable energy, water - life off [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LarryMast</title>
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		<dc:creator>LarryMast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an architect, ex-builder, LEED AP, and believe that since the Bush family hired an architect, designed what they did, had it build, paid for it, they knew what they were doing and the benefits for them and others who follow their example. See articles on Al Gore&#039;s house.  I agree with the comment about Mandatory Energy Managment and disagree with much of the Bush Administration environmental policy, and do personal congressional and presidential &quot;lobbying&quot; letters accordingsly...and although a life-time Republican, has not supported the GOP financially as I have in the past because of these environmental issues. 
Respectfully submitted. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an architect, ex-builder, LEED AP, and believe that since the Bush family hired an architect, designed what they did, had it build, paid for it, they knew what they were doing and the benefits for them and others who follow their example. See articles on Al Gore&#8217;s house.  I agree with the comment about Mandatory Energy Managment and disagree with much of the Bush Administration environmental policy, and do personal congressional and presidential &#8220;lobbying&#8221; letters accordingsly&#8230;and although a life-time Republican, has not supported the GOP financially as I have in the past because of these environmental issues.<br />
Respectfully submitted.</p>
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		<title>By: ecorazzi.com :: celebrities caught green-handed &#187; President Bush&#8217;s Texas Ranch Is Off-Grid, Eco-Friendly</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecorazzi.com :: celebrities caught green-handed &#187; President Bush&#8217;s Texas Ranch Is Off-Grid, Eco-Friendly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ndent on anyone for resources but yourself.  Heres a great snippet from the article;Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into purifying tanks un [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aviva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting story - i&#039;d be tempted to make some crack about Bush&#039;s split personality if it weren&#039;t so sad that he enjoys his off-grid house without seemingly any real appreciation for what it means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting story &#8211; i&#8217;d be tempted to make some crack about Bush&#8217;s split personality if it weren&#8217;t so sad that he enjoys his off-grid house without seemingly any real appreciation for what it means.</p>
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		<title>By: renewableenergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>renewableenergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY – THE ENERGY EVOLUTION –R13</p>
<p>In order to insure energy and economic independence as well as better economic growth without being blackmailed by foreign countries, our country, the United States of America’s Utilization of Energy Sources must change.<br />
&#8220;Energy drives our entire economy.”  We must protect it.  &#8220;Let&#8217;s face it, without energy the whole economy and economic society we have set up would come to a halt. So you want to have control over such an important resource that you need for your society and your economy.&#8221;  The American way of life is not negotiable.<br />
Our continued dependence on fossil fuels could and will lead to catastrophic consequences.</p>
<p>The federal, state and local government should implement a mandatory renewable energy installation program for residential and commercial property on new construction and remodeling projects with the use of energy efficient material, mechanical systems, appliances, lighting, retrofits etc.  The source of energy must be by renewable energy such as Solar-Photovoltaic, Geothermal, Wind, Biofuels, Ocean-Tidal, Hydrogen-Fuel Cell etc. This includes the utilizing of water from lakes, rivers and oceans to circulate in cooling towers to produce air conditioning and the utilization of proper landscaping to reduce energy consumption. (Sales tax on renewable energy products and energy efficiency should be reduced or eliminated)</p>
<p>The implementation of mandatory renewable energy could be done on a gradual scale over the next 10 years.  At the end of the 10 year period all construction and energy use in the structures throughout the United States must be 100% powered by renewable energy.  (This can be done by amending building code)</p>
<p>In addition, the governments must impose laws, rules and regulations whereby the utility companies must comply with a fair “NET METERING” (the buying of excess generation from the consumer at market price), including the promotion of research and production of “renewable energy technology” with various long term incentives and grants.  The various foundations in existence should be used to contribute to this cause.   </p>
<p> A mandatory time table should also be established for the automobile industry to gradually produce an automobile powered by renewable energy.  The American automobile industry is surely capable of accomplishing this task.  As an inducement to buy hybrid automobiles (sales tax should be reduced or eliminated on American manufactured automobiles).</p>
<p>This is a way to expedite our energy independence and economic growth.  (This will also create a substantial amount of new jobs). It will take maximum effort and a relentless pursuit of the private, commercial and industrial government sectors’ commitment to renewable energy – energy generation (wind, solar, hydro, biofuels, geothermal, energy storage (fuel cells, advance batteries), energy infrastructure (management, transmission) and energy efficiency (lighting, sensors, automation, conservation) (rainwater harvesting, water conservation) (energy and natural resources conservation) in order to achieve our energy independence.</p>
<p>&#8220;To succeed, you have to believe in something with such a passion that it becomes a reality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jay Draiman, Energy Consultant<br />
Northridge, CA.  91325<br />
Feb. 17, 2007</p>
<p>P.S.  I have a very deep belief in America&#8217;s capabilities. Within the next 10 years we can accomplish our energy independence, if we as a nation truly set our goals to accomplish this.<br />
I happen to believe that we can do it. In another crisis&#8211;the one in 1942&#8211;President Franklin D. Roosevelt said this country would build 60,000 [50,000] military aircraft. By 1943, production in that program had reached 125,000 aircraft annually. They did it then. We can do it now.<br />
&#8220;the way we produce and use energy must fundamentally change.&#8221;<br />
The American people resilience and determination to retain the way of life is unconquerable and we as a nation will succeed in this endeavor of Energy Independence.</p>
<p>The Oil Companies should be required to invest a substantial percentage of their profit in renewable energy R&amp;D and implementation. Those who do not will be panelized by the public at large by boy cutting their products.</p>
<p>Solar energy is the source of all energy on the earth (excepting volcanic geothermal). Wind, wave and fossil fuels all get their energy from the sun. Fossil fuels are only a battery which will eventually run out. The sooner we can exploit all forms of Solar energy (cost effectively or not against dubiously cheap FFs) the better off we will all be. If the battery runs out first, the survivors will all be living like in the 18th century again.</p>
<p>Every new home built should come with a solar package. A 1.5 kW per bedroom is a good rule of thumb. The formula 1.5 X&#8217;s 5 hrs per day X&#8217;s 30 days will produce about 225 kWh per bedroom monthly. This peak production period will offset 17 to 2</p>
<p>4 cents per kWh with a potential of $160 per month or about $60,000 over the 30-year mortgage period for a three-bedroom home. It is economically feasible at the current energy price and the interest portion of the loan is deductible. Why not?</p>
<p>Title 24 has been mandated forcing developers to build energy efficient homes. Their bull-headedness put them in that position and now they see that Title 24 works with little added cost. Solar should also be mandated and if the developer designs a home that solar is impossible to do then they should pay an equivalent mitigation fee allowing others to put solar on in place of their negligence. (Installation should be paid “performance based”).</p>
<p>Installation of renewable energy and its performance should be paid to the installer and manufacturer based on &#8220;performance based&#8221; (that means they are held accountable for the performance of the product &#8211; that includes the automobile industry). This will gain the trust and confidence of the end-user to proceed with such a project; it will also prove to the public that it is a viable avenue of energy conservation.</p>
<p>Installing a renewable energy system on your home or business increases the value of the property and provides a marketing advantage.</p>
<p>Nations of the world should unite and join together in a cohesive effort to develop and implement MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY for the sake of humankind and future generations.<br />
The head of the U.S. government&#8217;s renewable energy lab said Monday (Feb. 5) that the federal government is doing &#8220;embarrassingly few things&#8221; to foster renewable energy, leaving leadership to the states at a time of opportunity to change the nation&#8217;s energy future. &#8220;I see little happening at the federal level. Much more needs to happen.&#8221;  What&#8217;s needed, he said, is a change of our national mind set. Instead of viewing the hurdles that still face renewable sources and setting national energy goals with those hurdles in mind, we should set ambitious national renewable energy goals and set about overcoming the hurdles to meet them. We have an opportunity, an opportunity we can take advantage of or an opportunity we can squander and let go,&#8221;<br />
solar energy &#8211; the direct conversion of sunlight with solar cells, either into electricity or hydrogen, faces cost hurdles independent of their intrinsic efficiency. Ways must be found to lower production costs and design better conversion and storage systems.<br />
FEDERAL BUILDINGS WITH SOLAR ENERGY – Renewable Energy<br />
All government buildings, Federal, State, County, City etc. should be mandated to be energy efficient and must use renewable energy on all new structures and structures that are been remodeled/upgraded.<br />
&#8220;The goverment should serve as an example to its citizens&#8221;<br />
Jay Draiman</p>
<p>Northridge, CA 91325<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:renewableenergy2@msn.com">renewableenergy2@msn.com</a></p>
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